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Marcuse

(7,482 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:41 PM Apr 2020

He identifies with Captain Bligh of the Bounty, but he more resembles Captain Queeg of the Caine.

][link:https://slate.com/culture/2020/04/mutiny-on-the-bounty-trump-tweet-explained.html|

Trump has shown a truly heroic ability to misread movies in the past, notably Citizen Kane, whose moral he concluded was “Get yourself a different woman.” And it’s not hard to imagine him identifying with Bligh, a high-handed authoritarian who demands that his subordinates obey his every command, even when it means committing outright fraud. But Bligh was overthrown, and though a contemporary trial cleared his name and the mutineers were hanged, his name has become synonymous with paranoia and despotism. Bligh is, in short, a loser, and thus a pretty darn odd person for Trump to cite in a bring-it-on boast to Democratic governors.

If there’s a logic behind the tweet at all—and it’s likely that, in writing this, I have put more thought into the comparison than any of the people behind it—it may be in tying the governors’ assertion of their rightful authority to the word mutiny, and to the only reference point most people have for it. It may not matter to Trump that Bligh lost, if he even knows that much. It may be simply that Bligh is famous. Better the 19th-best villain of all time than some well-meaning chump no one’s ever heard of.
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He identifies with Captain Bligh of the Bounty, but he more resembles Captain Queeg of the Caine. (Original Post) Marcuse Apr 2020 OP
He obviously has never seen that movie kimbutgar Apr 2020 #1
If only Trump were some well-meaning chump that no one ever heard of. iscooterliberally Apr 2020 #2
He didn't write the tweet and seriously doubt he has seen the movies or read the history. Thomas Hurt Apr 2020 #3
Were the mutineers hanged? thucythucy Apr 2020 #4
We all need to get away from trump . Set him adrift 2020 lunasun Apr 2020 #5
Nah. Captain Queeg earned his rank. He was no good at his job and he lost his mind . . . Journeyman Apr 2020 #6
A major difference Chainfire Apr 2020 #7
He's as limp and useless C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #8
Captain Ahab of the Pequod. DemoTex Apr 2020 #9

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
2. If only Trump were some well-meaning chump that no one ever heard of.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:47 PM
Apr 2020

I regret that anyone is even aware of his existence. Trump is definitely one person that the world could have done without.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. He didn't write the tweet and seriously doubt he has seen the movies or read the history.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:47 PM
Apr 2020

Bligh went on to be Governor in New South Wales and suffered another mutiny on land.

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
4. Were the mutineers hanged?
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 02:49 PM
Apr 2020

I thought they managed to land on Pitcairn Island and avoid the authorities long enough to be forgotten.

In fact, the residents of Pitcairn today are descendants of those mutineers. So at least some of them managed to get away.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
6. Nah. Captain Queeg earned his rank. He was no good at his job and he lost his mind . . .
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 03:10 PM
Apr 2020

so Trump has that in common with him. But Queeg rose through the ranks, in the peacetime service, and so paid his dues for his stripes.

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