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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:42 PM May 2020

When American conservatism becomes un-American

From Harvard Law School comes the latest conservative flirtation with authoritarianism. Professor Adrian Vermeule, a 2016 Catholic convert, is an “integralist” who regrets his academic specialty, the Constitution, and rejects the separation of church and state. His much-discussed recent Atlantic essay advocating a government that judges “the quality and moral worth of public speech” is unimportant as a practical political manifesto, but it is symptomatic of some conservatives’ fevers, despairs and temptations.

“Common-good capitalism,” a recent proposal by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), is capitalism minus the essence of capitalism — limited government respectful of society’s cumulative intelligence and preferences collaboratively revealed through market transactions. Vermeule’s “common-good constitutionalism” is Christian authoritarianism — muscular paternalism, with government enforcing social solidarity for religious reasons. This is the Constitution minus the Framers’ purpose: a regime respectful of individuals’ diverse notions of the life worth living. Such respect is, he says, “abominable.”

Vermeule would jettison “libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology.” And: “Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.” Who will define these duties? Integralists will, because they have an answer to this perennial puzzle: If the people are corrupt, how do you persuade them to accept the yoke of virtue-enforcers? The answer: Forget persuasion. Hierarchies must employ coercion.

Common-good constitutionalism’s “main aim,” Vermeule says, is not to “minimize the abuse of power” but “to ensure that the ruler has the power needed to rule well.” Such constitutionalism “does not suffer from a horror of political domination and hierarchy” because the “law is parental, a wise teacher and an inculcator of good habits,” wielded “if necessary even against the subjects’ own perceptions of what is best for them.” Besides, those perceptions are not really the subjects’, because under Vermeule’s regime the law will impose perceptions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/when-american-conservatism-becomes-un-american/2020/05/28/336a953a-a0f6-11ea-b5c9-570a91917d8d_story.html

Even George Will is now recognizing the Republican Party as the party of traitors.

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When American conservatism becomes un-American (Original Post) Zorro May 2020 OP
God, This Is Horrifying Scary Me. May 2020 #1
Fundamentalist Catholocism is just as bad as the Evangelicals. Dawson Leery May 2020 #2
Barr, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh- BadgerMom May 2020 #6
George Will no less. underpants May 2020 #3
Republicans are hazardous to your health. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #4
A menace to society. Karadeniz May 2020 #5
It's a belief that Democracy has failed because of the demos..... Edwcraig May 2020 #7
Uh-oh. Another Catholic dominionist. Nay May 2020 #8
American conservatism became un-American Aristus May 2020 #9

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
2. Fundamentalist Catholocism is just as bad as the Evangelicals.
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:38 PM
May 2020

Look at the historic violence of Europe (mostly the fault of the RCC).

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
6. Barr, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh-
Fri May 29, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

all are Catholic conservatives. I don’t dislike Catholics (my dad was Catholic) or Catholicism. I despise authoritarians.

Edwcraig

(290 posts)
7. It's a belief that Democracy has failed because of the demos.....
Fri May 29, 2020, 06:55 PM
May 2020

Democracy works when Democracy if allowed to work. When Democracy is perverted by anti Democratic forces, such as oligarchs controlling government by buying elected officials and using fascist propaganda to pit one group of citizens against another, Democracy fails. Enlightened despots by any other name are despots. Prevent the oligarchs from controlling government. Democracy will become again the best form of government.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
9. American conservatism became un-American
Sun May 31, 2020, 09:12 AM
May 2020

right around the time the House Un-American Activities Committee was formed...

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