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Judi Lynn

(160,633 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 04:34 AM Feb 2021

On the Relative Vileness of George W. Bush and Donald Trump, Liz Cheney and Marjorie Taylor Greene

FEBRUARY 10, 2021

BY GARY LEUPP

When I think Donald Trump I think the word: VILE. A combination of the evil and repulsive. But when I think George W. Bush I ALSO think “vile.”

There is no great moral distance between Bush as Texas governor mocking the plea for mercy by a death row female prisoner who’d become a born-again Christian in 1998, and Trump as candidate mocking a handicapped reporter for criticizing him in 2016.

Or between Bush as president ordering, in a threatening tone, his international terrorism advisor Richard Clarke in 2001 to “look into Iraq, Saddam” in connection with 9-11 and Trump’s order to the Georgia secretary of state to find the missing votes he needs to win the election. Both former presidents are ignorant, callous, amoral, misanthropic monsters. Human scum, in the pithy Korean expression.

Bush and his powerful co-president Dick Cheney, like Trump, lied incessantly from 2001 to achieve their designs, in particular their plan to reconfigure the entire Middle East under U.S. hegemony. That effort meant whipping up fears of a nuclear attack from Baghdad, the destruction of Iraq as a modern state, and the deaths of over half a million innocent people. Bush’s aide and “brain,” Karl Rove—a master of disinformation and dirty tricks—boasted to Ron Suskind that truth didn’t matter anymore, because “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.”

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https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/10/on-the-relative-vileness-of-george-w-bush-and-donald-trump-liz-cheney-and-marjorie-taylor-greene/

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On the Relative Vileness of George W. Bush and Donald Trump, Liz Cheney and Marjorie Taylor Greene (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2021 OP
it's why I cringe when DUers say Trump makes Duyba look good Skittles Feb 2021 #1
Yup. yankeepants Feb 2021 #2
There is one difference. Trump's total lack of empathy and failure to even be able to feign it, hlthe2b Feb 2021 #3
Dubya didn't fake it very well either Skittles Feb 2021 #4

Skittles

(153,204 posts)
1. it's why I cringe when DUers say Trump makes Duyba look good
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 04:38 AM
Feb 2021

NO HE DOESN'T

THEY ARE BOTH VILE AND DISGUSTING

hlthe2b

(102,390 posts)
3. There is one difference. Trump's total lack of empathy and failure to even be able to feign it,
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:46 AM
Feb 2021

along with his full-blown, uncontained malignant narcissism makes him the more dangerous and psychopathic figure. That does not diminish Cheney's grotesque cunning manipulation (a man who has haunted my nightmares for decades) and Bush* defects that fueled his power lust and similar need to "show up Daddy" at our expense.

Trump is cunning, but not intelligent to the level of the most "successful" evil authoritarians in history. But those who share his traits, yet are able to direct their own inner "voices," and devastating insecurities will take his roadmap and destroy this country.

From Bush* to Trump was a linear path. But that path to destruction will be exponential with the next "Trump-wannabe."

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