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marmar

(77,094 posts)
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:28 AM Apr 2021

Judges are being shown 'grisly' videos of MAGA mob dragging Capitol cops that have yet to be seen by


Judges are being shown 'grisly' videos of MAGA mob dragging Capitol cops that have yet to be seen by public


One of the most serious cases of violence against Capitol Police officers during the January 6th MAGA riots has flown mostly under the radar -- and it reportedly involves "grisly" footage that has never been seen by the public or the media.

CNN reports that body camera videos from officers who were beaten and dragged by Trump supporters during the riots at the United States Capitol building are being used by prosecutors to argue that at least five accused rioters should not be released ahead of their trials.

"In several court hearings in recent weeks, prosecutors have rolled out as at least four video clips, with most taken from the police officers' body camera footage, to convince judges... of the severity of the danger," reports CNN. "As each of the defendants have been processed, some of the videos have been shown multiple times, to different judges, or to highlight the actions of each defendant." ...........(more)

https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-riot-videos/





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Judges are being shown 'grisly' videos of MAGA mob dragging Capitol cops that have yet to be seen by (Original Post) marmar Apr 2021 OP
Gee! Those police body cams are going to help defend police. A big plus. LiberalFighter Apr 2021 #1
When used coreectly they protect everyone.... diverdownjt Apr 2021 #38
Sad that any judge has to be "convinced" mountain grammy Apr 2021 #2
"not gonna survive"? Get real. Four years ago, you were probably one of many Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy Apr 2021 #24
I think DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #26
Two words NJCher Apr 2021 #34
70 million people voted for Chauvin? Wednesdays Apr 2021 #40
+1 live love laugh Apr 2021 #39
And yet, the person who instigated this whole thing goes free. Cousin Dupree Apr 2021 #3
Yep, and nobody's touching his body cam without Level 3 HazMat gear complete with SCBA jaxexpat Apr 2021 #4
+1 Botany Apr 2021 #6
Swap Obama's name with Trump, and just imagine... Eyeball_Kid Apr 2021 #19
Trump has killed over 1/2 a million Americans, was installed by Russia, looted the Treasury for Botany Apr 2021 #23
Super Max would be the perfect reward DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #27
By jove, I believe you nailed it! Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #30
Great summary of his major crimes. BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #32
Forget the chair jmowreader Apr 2021 #33
Our best bet to get Trump on tax cheating IMHO. riversedge Apr 2021 #9
Just like Al Capone.......NC DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #28
A failed state. Loge23 Apr 2021 #10
Seriously? marble falls Apr 2021 #12
Which is why that we, as Democrats, must be better prepared for next time TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #13
I don't think we're there yet. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2021 #20
Get real. People were bleating that 4 years ago about tRump. USA survives as a democracy. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #15
I'm with you, Bernardo. ShazzieB Apr 2021 #35
Well stated and thank you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #37
Using the videos to deny bail is good. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #5
Making the videos public would be best. LudwigPastorius Apr 2021 #17
That's an excellent point. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #22
I say save them for the trial. ShazzieB Apr 2021 #36
I agree. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #41
I also thought it was convincing enough. ananda Apr 2021 #7
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Apr 2021 #8
"And then I fed him to the crowd" has got to be one of the most disgusting boasts ever... Hekate Apr 2021 #14
Whatever it takes The Unmitigated Gall Apr 2021 #16
why aren't they made public? Grasswire2 Apr 2021 #18
Hear Hear! Without video, Chauvin would be a free man today. flibbitygiblets Apr 2021 #25
Mueller was a life time Republican DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #29
The sooner this footage gets wide public exposure, the better. Paladin Apr 2021 #21
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #31

diverdownjt

(702 posts)
38. When used coreectly they protect everyone....
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 06:00 AM
Apr 2021

I used to think camera's everywhere would be bad...I never dreamed it would actually help
save some small portion of our nation. I never dreamed we would have to defend ourselves
from the police.

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)
2. Sad that any judge has to be "convinced"
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:06 AM
Apr 2021

I'm convinced just watching the videos I have seen, but judges aren't?

Wow.. We're not gonna survive this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
11. "not gonna survive"? Get real. Four years ago, you were probably one of many
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:07 PM
Apr 2021

... here on DU that were saying we would not "survive" four years of tRump. I was saying that the US of A and Democrats would survive handily.

Presentation of evidence to TAKE AWAY a person's FREEDOM has to be very strong. It is not enough to simply say someone was there to hold them in jail and take away their freedom before they have been tried.

Don't forget that the US criminal justice system is based on the presumption of innocence.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
26. I think
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:03 PM
Apr 2021

that it is equally important to remember that it takes a unanimous jury of twelve people to convict on a criminal charge, and there are 70+ Million people that would certainly have at least one person on any criminal trial of these despicable people.........

Botany

(70,594 posts)
6. +1
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:33 AM
Apr 2021

Trump:

Gave the day, the date, the time, and the place for the violent overthrow of our elections
on multiple invites to the people who made up the insurrectionist mob including a "come
and go wild" quote.

Paid for part of "it" with Trump campaign funds.

Had a pre-riot party and then a pep talk to the mob.

Decapitated the D.C. National Guard prior to the riot.

Had his chief of staff Nick Mulvaney's niece fill out the paperwork for the permits.

Refused to send help after Rep. McCarthy and V.P. President called him for help.

After >100 cops were hurt, 5 people dead, 30 million in damage to the Capitol and its grounds, and
God only knows what he told the racist rioters that "he loved 'em."

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
19. Swap Obama's name with Trump, and just imagine...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:25 PM
Apr 2021

Obama would be in jail. NOW. Or worse.

Each passing day that Trump is free and unencumbered by federal and state prosecutions is another day that gives us reason to suspect that NOT ONE prosecution office will indict, arrest, or present Trump with subpoenas. It looks more and more like Trump is untouchable, that he'll NEVER have to account for his treasonous actions. Never.

It looks like the threat of ultra-right civil unrest is what's keeping the justice system at bay. PLEASE, someone, prove me wrong.

Botany

(70,594 posts)
23. Trump has killed over 1/2 a million Americans, was installed by Russia, looted the Treasury for
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:01 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Sat Apr 24, 2021, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)

$100 million for his golfing, was and still is an active Russian asset, removed the top cyber security
people so Russia could hack us (see solar winds), called Georgia's Sec. of State and told him to find
12,000 votes to overturn the election results, was responsible for something like 3% of all the credit
card fraud in America in 2020, got Capitol Policeman Sicknick murdered, killed >5,000 Americans in
Puerto Rico, got something like 200 American G.I.s TBI (traumatic brain injury) after he had some
Iranian General murdered, and on and on and on.

The man needs a wooden chair, straw bales, leather straps, a blindfold, and a dawn sunrise. Or at
least a cell in the US Supermax Prison in Colorado.

You watch "they" will go for the diminished mental capacity defense for Trump when the bills come due.

BTW the key to Trump's political strength is racism nothing more and nothing less.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
27. Super Max would be the perfect reward
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:12 PM
Apr 2021

For Trump, almost all the Republican Senators, Republican Governors, and a ton of other Trump administration and Minions.........

Alone in a sound insulated cell for 23 hours a day, all meals shoved thru a slot on the door, no contact with any other prisoners, no means of connecting to anyone or anything in the outside world........No TV, No Internet, etc etc etc

I would give anything to see it.......................

After just six months in Supermax, McVeigh begged the courts to execute him. And, they gladly granted his wish.
His asshole buddy Nichols? is still holding out while imprisoned there.......

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
10. A failed state.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:07 PM
Apr 2021

America is watching itself implode.
Not only are the seditious scum in our House and Senate apparently not accountable for their actions on and leading to the January 6th insurrection, but the con man who started the whole thing is living La Dolce Vita in his mansion.
Meanwhile, the scum continues to throw out more red meat to their brain-dead followers.

Is there any hope anymore?

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
13. Which is why that we, as Democrats, must be better prepared for next time
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:16 PM
Apr 2021

Because there very likely will be a "next time". And it probably will be done more competently then what this was, because the one saving grace in all of this is that the former guy surrounded himself with incompetent sycophants.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
20. I don't think we're there yet.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:28 PM
Apr 2021

We have to get resolution first. We have to determine whether Trump will have to defend himself in Court on criminal and federal charges, as well as state charges. NOTHING IS HAPPENING that we can see. I think that the January 6 events have to be resolved FIRST before we prepare for next time.

ShazzieB

(16,543 posts)
35. I'm with you, Bernardo.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 03:38 AM
Apr 2021

I'm as troubled as the next person about some of the things that have happened in this country, particularly in the last 4 or 5 years (i.e., the "rise" of Chump and his time in office). But the gloom and doom can be way overdone around here sometimes.

I just keep thinking about how things that are repeated often enough can become self-fulfilling prophecies. And I'm too old and ornery to give up so easily.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
5. Using the videos to deny bail is good.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:27 AM
Apr 2021

Using them to impress upon juries that these insurrectionists should not walk among decent citizens would be even better.

LudwigPastorius

(9,190 posts)
17. Making the videos public would be best.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:05 PM
Apr 2021

The Nazi-right has been pushing the lie that the whole thing was just some good patriots blowing off steam due to a stolen election, and that the Capitol Police welcomed them with open arms.

Everyone needs to see the full extent of what these traitorous scumbags did.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
22. That's an excellent point.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
Apr 2021

I suppose the argument would be made that it would contaminate the pre-trial jury pool(s), but they will almost surely see them in due course. Maybe, in one way, it's better to not release them early. Wouldn't want to desensitize people to the violence.

Hekate

(90,848 posts)
14. "And then I fed him to the crowd" has got to be one of the most disgusting boasts ever...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:17 PM
Apr 2021

No, I don’t know who said it, but it has now appeared in more than one news article about 1/6.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
18. why aren't they made public?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:23 PM
Apr 2021

I hate keeping evidence secret from the American people.

Like the Mueller Report.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
25. Hear Hear! Without video, Chauvin would be a free man today.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:49 PM
Apr 2021

Video evidence is the best way to change hearts and minds (assuming one has those things in the first place.)

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
29. Mueller was a life time Republican
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:23 PM
Apr 2021

I am convinced that had he done a fair job of presenting the evidence he would have brought down the Republican Party forever.....
He knew, that between his less than thorough report and DOJ Barr, his report would be washed aside.......

I have often wondered, how an individual could be in a place to change the course of history towards the good side, and shirk that responsibility for 300+ million citizens......and still live with themselves.........

I think there are a whole lot more psychopaths running around this country than the mental health professionals realize........

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
21. The sooner this footage gets wide public exposure, the better.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:35 PM
Apr 2021

Those who participated in the January 6 coup attempt need to be taken out of public circulation, then tried, then found guilty, and finally thrown in prison, just as soon as possible.

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