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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,274 posts)
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:21 PM May 2021

The Trouble With the Gavin Newsom Recall

The recall election coming later this year for California Governor Gavin Newsom doesn’t appear likely to end with his removal from office. Although Newsom’s opponents have gathered enough signatures to require a vote—and conditions in the state could still change—polls show that public support for the effort is far below what Newsom’s critics will need to force his removal.

Nevertheless, the drive may trigger another form of recall: It may finally prompt California to examine whether the 110-year-old state law that governs recalls still makes sense in our modern era of unrelenting partisan conflict.

The law was instituted during the Progressive era as a tool to tame special interests, but the effort against Newsom suggests that it’s become a weapon of harassment and manipulation by Republicans. The GOP constitutes a minority in the state, where Democrats hold all major statewide offices and supermajorities in both legislative chambers, and where Joe Biden buried Donald Trump by more than 5 million votes last year. Once California’s secretary of state gives final certification to the collected signatures, Newsom will become the second of the state’s past three Democratic governors to face a recall that reached the ballot: Governor Gray Davis was ousted in a 2003 recall election and replaced by Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger. How unusual is that confluence? Across all the states, recalls against only three other governors in American history have qualified for the ballot.

This pattern has some California Democrats now talking openly about making fundamental changes to the recall law—an idea rarely discussed since Governor Hiram Johnson, a Progressive icon, pushed it through the legislature in 1911. “This thing is going to be defeated by Newsom pretty handily,” says the Democratic strategist Garry South, who was the chief adviser to Davis in his two gubernatorial races, in 1998 and 2002. “And when this is all over, the legislature has to take a serious look at revamping the processes and procedures for qualifying a recall against the governor of California.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trouble-with-the-gavin-newsom-recall/ar-BB1gHmy0

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The Trouble With the Gavin Newsom Recall (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
Hope the Newsome supporters turn out to defeat this recall. East-A-Squared May 2021 #1
I believe we will! n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2021 #2
🇺🇸🍀🕊🇺🇸😉👍🏼🇺🇸🤜🏻🤛🏾 🇺🇸😁 LakeArenal May 2021 #5
I'm sure they will. jimfields33 May 2021 #4
We shall. Polly Hennessey May 2021 #6
Democrats still should not become . . . Lovie777 May 2021 #3
Oh I'll be voting... The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #7
I plan on ordering 5 million ballots from Amazon... AZ8theist May 2021 #8
I think the number of signatures on a recall petition need to be higher to justify an election. ShazamIam May 2021 #9

jimfields33

(16,008 posts)
4. I'm sure they will.
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:32 PM
May 2021

I’m hoping that at least raise the number of signatures required. 1.5 million signatures out of 40 million population is absurd. Yes I know I’m counting every person and probably the number is 25 million who can vote. But even with that number, 1.5 million votes is ridiculously to low.

Lovie777

(12,346 posts)
3. Democrats still should not become . . .
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:29 PM
May 2021

complacent. Many here believe that the recall vote for the state will come up short.

AZ8theist

(5,507 posts)
8. I plan on ordering 5 million ballots from Amazon...
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:32 PM
May 2021

Without bamboo.
Pre-marked for Newsome.
Hey! It worked here in Arizona!!!

ShazamIam

(2,576 posts)
9. I think the number of signatures on a recall petition need to be higher to justify an election.
Thu May 13, 2021, 10:13 PM
May 2021

I don't object to recall's in principle, but in practice, yes they are highly partisan attack tools.

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