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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 12:43 PM Aug 2021

The big bet Joe Biden is making on Afghanistan

Joe Biden believes that you don't care about Afghanistan. Or, maybe more accurately, that you won't care about it by the time the 2022 (and 2024) elections rolls around.

He -- and his top aides-- wouldn't put it that way, of course.

But every signal he and they are sending makes clear that they simply do not believe the debacle of the last 10 days will be a voting issue for most Americans.

Start with Biden's first speech on Afghanistan six days ago -- his first major remarks since the Taliban effectively took over the country. While Biden bowed to the dangers posed by the need to evacuate thousands of Americans from the country, he was resolute about his decision to withdraw all American troops from the country.

Here's the key bit: "I stand squarely behind my decision. After 20 years, I've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw US forces."

The message was clear: We are not staying in Afghanistan indefinitely -- no matter how ugly things looks right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-big-bet-joe-biden-is-making-on-afghanistan/ar-AANDHlA

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The big bet Joe Biden is making on Afghanistan (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
How shitty is this article. . . Lovie777 Aug 2021 #1
This will likely help him... orwell Aug 2021 #2
If you think getting out of a $6 trillion worthless Republican failure in nation building lees1975 Aug 2021 #3
Biden is doing what he has to do arlyellowdog Aug 2021 #4
Nicole Wallace was right... And Joe Knows it Too. RustyWheels Aug 2021 #5
Fuck Chris Cillizza njhoneybadger Aug 2021 #6
This! PortTack Aug 2021 #7
If Obama hasn't already done so, betting he will say, "Joe, do you get why I didn't withdraw now." Hoyt Aug 2021 #8

orwell

(7,775 posts)
2. This will likely help him...
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 12:48 PM
Aug 2021

...in 2024, if he still decides to run.

Most Americans want out of this quagmire. The true Cons who are braying about the decision will not vote for him anyway. The persuadable "independents" will likely chalk this up to a courageous decision.

It separates him from the "normal" ass-covering politician into a man of decision and conviction.

lees1975

(3,861 posts)
3. If you think getting out of a $6 trillion worthless Republican failure in nation building
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 12:50 PM
Aug 2021

is a debacle, you're already on shaky ground.

Other than those who needed money so they helped us out, it would appear that the vast majority of the Afghan people prefer the Taliban to American rule.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
4. Biden is doing what he has to do
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 12:51 PM
Aug 2021

I know spoke here in DC working 24/7 for the Afghans who need help. We can’t continue this war and we have to help refugees. It is what it is.

RustyWheels

(123 posts)
5. Nicole Wallace was right... And Joe Knows it Too.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 12:57 PM
Aug 2021

After Joe's first speech Nicole said: "95% of the public will love it, and 95% of the media will hate it."

She was right. The media has done nothing but hype the catastrophe, while mostly refusing to report on the factual information from Trumps terrible deal with the Taliban, refusing to hold the Taliban accountable to the deal, doing NOTHING to get any of our Afghani friends out prior to leaving office, and the incredible GOOD job that is currently being done to get over 35,000 out in the last week.

I too think this will be a non-story for the 2022 mid-terms, or the 2024 general... Unless something terrible yet happens there, but we will have to wait and see on that.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
6. Fuck Chris Cillizza
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 01:00 PM
Aug 2021

Chris Cillizza has written more than 50 posts mentioning Hillary Clinton's emails since March on his Washington Post politics blog The Fix, nearly all of them issuing dire warnings about the supposedly “massive political problem.”
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