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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 02:09 PM Sep 2021

A Covid Surge Is Overwhelming U.S. Hospitals, Raising Fears About Rationed Care: NPR

Sept. 5, 2021. - Ed.

The U.S. health care system is again buckling under the weight of a COVID-19 surge that has filled more than 100,000 hospital beds nationwide and forced some states to consider enacting "crisis standards of care" — a last resort plan for rationing medical care during a catastrophic event. The idea is an alarming sign of how the delta variant has ripped through large swaths of the country — primarily sickening the unvaccinated and straining an already depleted health care workforce.

In recent weeks, more than 10 states have reached their highest hospital admissions for COVID-19 of the pandemic, from the Southeast to the Pacific Northwest. And the U.S. continues to average more than 160,000 new coronavirus cases a day.

Many hospitals are "right on the edge" "We're in a very dangerous place, given the level of our surge," says Dr. Bruce Siegel, president of America's Essential Hospitals, a trade group that represents hundreds of public hospitals. "We are right on the edge of entering crisis standards of care. I hope we don't get to that point, but it could very easily happen," Siegel says. This is essentially a road map for how to divvy up medical care in a way that's equitable when resources are tight. While there are national guidelines for crisis standards, the actual plans can vary depending on the state, region or institution.

Declaring crisis standards does not necessarily mean patients will be denied care altogether, but it does give hospitals flexibility about whom to prioritize and provides legal protection for doctors. For example, certain patients deemed less likely to survive may not get a bed in the intensive care unit. Nurses may be asked to treat many more patients than is normally considered safe. Patients may have to be discharged from the hospital before they would normally go home, and some patients who would usually be admitted for hospital care might have to be denied.

Arizona had to activate its plan earlier in the pandemic. And some states came to the brink of doing so last winter. These plans can include a "scoring" system that evaluates a patient's chance of survival based on the functioning of the brain, heart, kidneys or other major organs. - "It's worse than ever" - Nurses overwhelmed. ICU patients being housed in the emergency room. Doctors scouring the state for the last bed. These are scenes that critical care doctor Kenneth Krell never expected to deal with in late 2021, once highly effective vaccines for COVID-19 were widely available...

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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/05/1034210487/covid-surge-overwhelming-hospitals-raising-fears-rationed-care

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A Covid Surge Is Overwhelming U.S. Hospitals, Raising Fears About Rationed Care: NPR (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2021 OP
Triage is coming ... BlueWavePsych Sep 2021 #1
Death Panels lapfog_1 Sep 2021 #2
+1 luckone Sep 2021 #7
Rationed care is Turbineguy Sep 2021 #3
Send the non vac home or to tents. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #4
++ appalachiablue Sep 2021 #5
That's Rebl2 Sep 2021 #6
Yes. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #8
My ex-husband thinks Covid is a hoax CozyMystery Sep 2021 #9
Yep Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #10

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
3. Rationed care is
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 03:05 PM
Sep 2021

an old republican dog whistle. They love it. In repubworld, if you get sick it's cuz God thinks yur a dick.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
4. Send the non vac home or to tents.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

They had a chance to get the shots and refuse.

Start sending them home and see the raise in people getting the shots.

Rebl2

(13,462 posts)
6. That's
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 05:00 PM
Sep 2021

similar to what I posted yesterday. They could have gotten vaccinated. Send them to a mash unit set up by military. Let them take care of them. I do want to add though, there are some who legitimately can’t be vaccinated right now, so I understand that.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
8. Yes.
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 07:24 PM
Sep 2021

Does not include children and adults who cannot for medical reasons.

The ones who refuse.

Take away the hospital and see how many still refuse.

The rest of us need medical care also.

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
9. My ex-husband thinks Covid is a hoax
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:38 PM
Sep 2021

He seriously broke his leg (he is 78) last week. Had surgery. Will be in hospital for a month.

So, while he was in recovery, he asked the nurse why it was taking so long to get him a room.

She said the hospital is full of Covid patients.

He was shocked.

Still won't vaccinate. Not against Covid, the flu, or pneumonia.

I think Covid vaccinated sick people should get a strong priority in hospitals.

I think no hospital or medical practice should be permitted to have unvaccinated employees.

I think all unvaccinated people who have Covid should be put elsewhere -- not in hospitals.

If I were a nurse, I would not agree to taking care of unvaccinated patients. If I were in charge, I'd assign unvaccinated patients to unvaccinated nurses.

I suppose the hospital can test my ex for Covid in 2 weeks, and hope he doesn't have it.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
10. Yep
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 11:50 PM
Sep 2021

I agree

My housemate needs some minor surgery but cannot get it.

In Houston.

We have the Texas Medical Center.

She should not have to wait because of a unvaxed person.

Something needs to change.

We stay home because we do not want to get sick.

I am pissed off.

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