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Zorro

(15,722 posts)
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 11:11 PM Sep 2021

Fascism: Majority of Republicans say belief in Trump election hoax important part of Republicanism


The hoax-promoting Sen. Josh Hawley will go down in history as a traitor to his country. He won't be alone.

A new CNN poll shows the nation remains politically divided, and by "politically divided" that primarily means Republicans continue to lurch farther and farther into hoax-promoting, anti-democratic extremism.

Two specific poll questions are worth calling out. The first is that about six in ten self-identified Republicans claim to believe that "supporting Donald Trump" is either a "very" or "somewhat" important part of "what being a Republican means to you." This is a bit weird, because Donald Trump is ... not in office. He has no current position. He is retired, bumbling around at Mar-a-Lago regaling wedding guests with stories of how the world has wronged him, interspersing rounds of Florida golf with promotional appearances at cult meet-ups and pay-per-view boxing matches. Donald Trump does not currently need any "support," but the question has a nearly identical response breakdown to a much more interesting poll question that this question probably acts as one-to-one proxy for.

That question? Whether "believing that Donald Trump won the 2020 election" is a "very" or "somewhat" important part of Republicanism. Those responses are near-identical, with 6 in 10 Republicans agreeing that it is.

The notion that Donald Trump "won" the 2020 election is a hoax. It's specifically a fascist-promoted hoax intended to discredit democratic elections themselves, because a good chunk of the party (six in ten, apparently) would rather burn democracy itself down than tolerate a world in which a self-promotional tax-dodging rapist incompetent gets booted after only one term in office. There is not even a scratch of evidence to support that Trump "won" an election in which he was quite soundly defeated. Not a single shred of evidence was found to back the Trump camp's propagandistic claims of "voter fraud." There is no state electoral count that could even be plausibly contested. There's nothing. The notion that Trump "won" is entirely the fabrication of a set of Trump allies who crafted it either to coddle the bruised ego of a delusional decompensating narcissist, as means for overthrowing the United States government, or both.

It is fascist propaganda. It is the equivalent of proclaiming that vaccinations turn you magnetic or that a political opponent is in fact a lizard person. It's not just false, but a toxic attempt to do harm for the sake of doing harm.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/12/2051849/-Fascism-Majority-of-Republicans-say-belief-in-Trump-election-hoax-important-part-of-Republicanism
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Fascism: Majority of Republicans say belief in Trump election hoax important part of Republicanism (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2021 OP
No one ever said they were the smart party. C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #1
That's a dead end. Trump will be litigating all of his financial crimes, but his war crimes OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #2
Cult aeromanKC Sep 2021 #3
Abe Lincoln would have some interesting commentary on this delusion. raging moderate Sep 2021 #4
GOP approves violence like NAZIs. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #5
Their reasoning for believing this is simple. Mr. Evil Sep 2021 #6
Do they also say that getting impeached TWICE was a hoax too? BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #7

OAITW r.2.0

(24,288 posts)
2. That's a dead end. Trump will be litigating all of his financial crimes, but his war crimes
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 11:25 PM
Sep 2021

was trying to Out-Trump the virus. He lost, 600,000 Americans died.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
4. Abe Lincoln would have some interesting commentary on this delusion.
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 11:48 PM
Sep 2021

He was the exact opposite of Donald Trump, in so many ways. The devolution of the Republican Party is one of the sad stories of the modern world.

Kid Berwyn

(14,796 posts)
5. GOP approves violence like NAZIs.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 12:03 AM
Sep 2021

They hobnob with the gangsters who plotted to kidnap, “try,” and assassinate the Governor of Michigan.

Mr. Evil

(2,825 posts)
6. Their reasoning for believing this is simple.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:33 AM
Sep 2021

They cheated. But, since TFG lost bigly they assume the Democrats cheated. In other words, outsmarted them. They can't stand that. Of course the Democrats didn't cheat. They just can't fathom the idea that practically all Democrats, most independents and even some republicans found TFG to be so repulsive and loathesome that they risked Covid-19 and conquered their usual apathy to vote for Joe Biden. They absolutely cannot handle that. It's really that simple.

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