Roe Is as Good as Gone. It's Time for a New Strategy.

[marmar]

By Kathryn Kolbert and Julie F. Kay
Ms. Kolbert, the co-founder of the Center for Reproductive Rights, argued Planned Parenthood v. Casey before the Supreme Court in 1992. Ms. Kay is a human rights lawyer who argued against Ireland’s ban on abortion before the European Court of Human Rights.


(NYT) For the first time in a generation, the Supreme Court appears likely to overturn Roe v. Wade. The end of Roe need not herald the end of an era of reproductive freedom. It may instead launch a new strategy that protects the fundamental human right to decide whether to have children and raise them in safety and dignity.

The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on Monday in two separate cases challenging the new Texas law effectively banning abortion. The more direct nationwide threat to Roe, however, comes in December in a case challenging a Mississippi law that would ban most abortions after 15 weeks.

To fully grasp what is at stake now, it’s worth looking back. In 1992, one of us, Ms. Kolbert, argued on behalf of Pennsylvania abortion providers in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which challenged abortion restrictions including a waiting period requirement, biased mandatory counseling, parental and spousal notification requirements and other obstacles to care. At the time many court watchers believed Roe was doomed. Justice Clarence Thomas had just joined the court, and at least four other justices appeared likely to vote to overturn the ruling.

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“Save Roe” has been the rallying cry of abortion-rights groups for nearly 50 years. But we need to stop banging our heads against the Supreme Court’s marble walls. While the situation is dire, we do have the potential today to realign American politics and develop a new strategy that not only preserves but expands reproductive freedoms.

First, we must think and talk about this issue differently. While our opponents talk about protecting religious beliefs or the “pre-born,” we must highlight the rights of women themselves, and point out that enabling them to choose whether, when and with whom they have children is central to gender equality and essential to the ability to control one’s own life. .............(more)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/opinion/roe-v-wade-abortion-supreme-court.html?

[Joinfortmill]

1. Next up, Congress.

[JohnSJ]

2. I would be surprised if it survived.

If I never hear from the Green Party, Jill Stein, Briahna Joy Gray, Susan Sarandon, David Sirota, Cornell West, and all those that went out of their way to discourage people from voting for the Democratic nominee in the general election in 2016, it will be too soon.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

3. Ditto!

[CrispyQ]

4. Elie Mystal has a great response to a caller who asked a gotcha question.

The vid is at this DU link.

https://democraticunderground.com/100215987990

It's worth it to watch the first few minutes. Our side needs a marketing department. I don't know why we don't think messaging is important, but we don't. We never have, as long as I've been a voting adult.

[marmar]

5. "I don't know why we don't think messaging is important, but we don't. We never have"

This. Absolutely the truth.

[CaptainTruth]

9. +1000 "Our side needs a marketing department."

"Our side needs a marketing department. I don't know why we don't think messaging is important, but we don't. We never have, as long as I've been a voting adult."

It frustrates the crap out of me. We can do all kinds of great things to help people but we don't tell them about it, not in an effective way. We just let the Right dominate the message space & barely counter them at all, & we repeatedly get our butts kicked because of it.

And make no mistake, today political battles for the hearts & minds of voters are not fought in Congress, they're fought in the "message space," the world of messaging. Yes, effective governing is important, but effective messaging is equally if not more important because we have to counter a relentless campaign of propaganda & lies from the Right.

I would say that today being successful in politics is about 50% governing & 50% marketing. Sometimes it's 75% marketing. On the Right it seems like it's 90% marketing with very little governing.

We must adapt to this new reality & evolve the necessary skills if we want our party to be successful.

[in2herbs]

6. My suggestion: expand the USSC court, divide the 9th District jurisdiction by forming a new

court and instead of pursuing the right to an abortion, rely on the slavery and servitude statutes already in place.

[crimycarny]

7. GOP to overturn landmark SC decision--Dems can't even enforce subpeonas for insurrectionists

GOP figures out a way to potentially overturn a critical SC decision that has been on the books since 1973, meanwhile, Dems can't even enforce subpoenas on those potentially involved in trying to overturn our Democracy.

I've been out on vacation for the last 5 days and purposely didn't watch or read the news. Just got back today and within 3 minutes went right back into frustration, anger, and despair for our Democracy.

[hurple]

8. My prediction

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They are biting off more than they can chew. If they overturn Roe v Wade they will be the dog that catches the car.

Overturning that law will awaken a sleeping giant and millions of apathetic non-voters will no longer be apathetic non-voters.

I have seen this everyday in my bright red community... Republican voters think their beliefs are the majority beliefs, it is always a shock when they learn that they're not. That's the main reason they believe the Big Lie right now, the bubble they live in cannot stand being penetrated by reality. It causes a complete dissonance in their rationality.

They have spent the last 40 years making abortion the single issue of importance to the majority of their voters. When those voters get that bone, what reason will they have to vote in the future? That's the reason behind drumming up all the anger over CRT, gay rights, and immigrants. They're throwing more cultural issues against the wall to see if any stick. But, they're not. Not like abortion did.

Overturning Row v Wade will be the worst thing they can do for their future election prospects.

[Skittles]

10. yup

they may very well regret it but fuck them all