Trump's election saboteurs were paid for by his campaign. The 'privilege' debate is over

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

We've known for some time now that the "official" attempt by Donald Trump's inner circle to find a strategy for nullifying a United States presidential election was deadly serious, was plotted for many weeks, and featured some of the top Republican criminals in the country. Rudy Giuliani gave up stovepiping false claims against Joe Biden's family invented by corrupt European oligarchs for this one. Bernard Kerik took time off from whatever the hell he's been doing, since he got out of prison, to join up. Steve Bannon was spurred into action even though it'd take time away from his day job of bilking Trump's base with fake border wall schemes. Anyone who was anyone in the GOP crime family was working all the knobs.

Mar-a-Lago's resident golf cheat is now claiming that those team attempts to nullify Trump's removal from office were a matter of "executive privilege," private deliberations, and advice given to him as the nation's pretzeldent. These claims didn't fly from Day One and are no closer to becoming airborne today. There is no "executive privilege" recognized for ex-presidents, as he is no longer in government. "Executive privilege" specifically cannot be used to cover up crimes, and what the House Select Committee is currently investigating is the crime of obstructing a U.S. election through violent and nonviolent means.

It also won't count as "executive privilege" when it wasn't being done as part of your "executive" duties to begin with. The Washington Post has a new piece targeting that point, noting that Giuliani and Kerik's attempts to dodge House demands for information on the plot suffer from a rather glaring weak point: It was the Donald Trump campaign that footed the bill for the team's posh Washington hotel "command center" and other expenses.

The attempt to nullify a U.S. election was being paid for by Trump's campaign, not by Trump's administration. Giuliani and the others involved can pound sand on any thought of invoking an "executive" defense for Team Sedition.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/3/2062039/-Trump-s-sedition-team-still-has-no-basis-for-executive-privilege-claims-but-the-clock-is-ticking

[FBaggins]

1. The privilege debate was over when it began

The problem is that there's still a process to formalize that. And it will take months.

There is no single person who can say "privilege claim denied". It has to go through a court... which can be appealed... which can be appealed.

Due process is necessary - but sometimes sucks.

Think of it as a death penalty case (assuming for the moment that we all agree with the DP). The guilty person is absolutely guilty and will eventually be put to death... but it will take a looooong time before that happens because some appeals are automatic.

[bullimiami]

2. Noone was trying to "nullify an election". They were trying to overthrow the elected government.

It was a coup attempt. Nothing less.

Im so tired of this soft pedaling of republican crimes.