James Carville knows *exactly* why Democrats lost on Tuesday

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

James Carville knows exactly why his party lost so badly on Tuesday: "Stupid wokeness."

That's the blunt diagnosis of the man who famously guided Bill Clinton to the White House in the early 1990s.

"Don't just look at Virginia and New Jersey," Carville told PBS' Judy Woodruff. "Look at Long Island, look at Buffalo, look at Minneapolis, even look at Seattle, Washington. I mean, this 'defund the police' lunacy, this take Abraham Lincoln's name off of schools. I mean that — people see that."

This is not a new view for Carville.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/james-carville-knows-exactly-why-democrats-lost-on-tuesday/ar-AAQkF8v

[msongs]

1. sometimes he sounds like he is telling POC to shut up.

[Casady1]

2. Some of the " wokeness"

Is what we call in sales “ sales prevention”. I am a person of color and some of their stuff is stupid especially defund the police.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

3. I disagree

We want to win and, although Defund the Police my resonate with some of the electorate, it is a losing issue. We need to win elections. There are other ways to rein in the Police, President Biden is appointing POC to judgeships at a rapid pace, Mayor Lightfoot in Chicago is bringing the police under her fold, etc. Defund the Police is only helping the Republicans as was proof from Nov 2nd elections.

[LenaBaby61]

7. "Defund the Police my resonate with some of the electorate, it is a losing issue."

Cori Bush is still saying defund the police as well as other Dems in more liberal states. Look at what happened in Minnesota the other night. They overwhelming voted to NOT outright defund police.

I understand how angry we minorities are with the fact that policemen are still getting away with murdering blacks like game, I know I am. But she/other Dems like her keep giving the GQP talking points. The GQP doesn't like the police unless they kill/murder black folks, and they're with them then. But they didn't care at all for the Capitol Police who were killed/beaten up/who've committed suicide because their fat leader told them to do what they did. They're still defending tRump and saying that Dems hate police. Of course, Most Dems don't talk about how fucking hypocritical the GQP but I digress. Funny though, she hired her own police staff to watch herself

You can't make this stuff up. We Dems may get slaughtered in the next big elections, because we have people in the party who don't really understand that they're giving the GQP talking points forever. This country will be worse than russia once the GQP US Taliban party get a complete hold of it.

Cori Bush explains her position on "defund the police" while paying for private security. Her full response.

Representative Cori Bush explained her position on "defunding the police" while also defending her spending on private security, in an interview Wednesday with CBS News.


Correspondent and anchor Vladimir Duthiers asked Bush to respond to critics who say it's "hypocritical" that she has spent $70,000 on private security while continuing to push for reforms to funding for police departments.

Bush stood by both positions in the interview, which was largely focused on the eviction moratorium and aired on CBSN, the network's streaming news channel.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cori-bush-defund-the-police-private-security-response/

[durablend]

10. Mhmm

Cori Bush explains her position

If You're explaining, you're losing

[LenaBaby61]

12. Dems are killing themselves .... slowly. Katie Porter and several others Dems ...

make themselves heard loud and clear. But too many of the rest of them have bad to very bad and muddled messaging. Anytime most friends see Schumer, they either turn down the sound until he goes off, or turn off their televisions.

[Kahuna]

4. POC here. I didn't think he was telling me to shut up....

To be clear, he is telling some folk to shut up, but it's not POC.

[Socal31]

13. Personally, I agree with the sentiment, to an extent.

The extent of my agreement is based on who is actually doing the talking.

When cable news has a panel of 5, and a POC starts educating the audience about their genuine lived experience, it can be very off-putting when a non-POC thinks they need to one-up them. Let them speak, I want to learn something.

Just my $.02.

[Kahuna]

14. That's quite a reach. And you're doing the same thing...

that you're accusing Carville of doing.

[Socal31]

16. I think you responded to the wrong post?

[Kahuna]

17. No, I did not. Nice try though. nt

[dweller]

5. I always have a hard time understanding him

with the trash can over his head …


✌🏻

[tulipsandroses]

6. James Carville and anyone who thinks like him

Can fuck right off. Nothing left to say about him and anyone who thinks like him. Never mind the fact that white women tears claiming that their kids are being traumatized are being recognized as truth that must be defended, meanwhile black mothers hold their breath everyday hoping their children won’t be killed by trigger happy cops and vigilante wannabe cops.

[happy feet]

9. This!

White non-college women swung 15 points (75%) to vote Youngkin into office in VA based on CRT in schools (not a thing) and I believe vaccine mandates. Cue 1-2-3 —- it’s black voters fault for a faulty moniker because ‘want tax $ funded police to stop shooting and killing us for no damned reason except they can and get away w/it.’ On the other hand acceptable for white Women’s to swing Repub because of a lie about CRT-which they can’t define and certainly doesn’t KILL their children.

🙄

[BootinUp]

8. There's nothing wrong with him expressing his view

because its a topic that is not going away. Hence all sides should discuss it and perhaps something could be gained.

[Beastly Boy]

11. Carville has been using the term "wokeness" in a specific well-defined way.

He has been careful about giving his definition every time he used the term. What he is referring to is not its meaning that originated in the POC community a long time ago, but what it has evolved into in the course of the current political debate: a version promoted by mostly, but not exclusively, white leftists who are largely misinformed and who misunderstand, to one degree or another, the original meaning of the term, and who lend their own interpretation, often oversimplifying, or over-intellectualizing, or completely missing the original meaning of "wokeness", in their attempts to fit it within the parameters of their political agenda. This trend contributed to, as we can plainly see now, alienation of and eventually antagonism on the part of mostly, but not exclusively, white swing voters who were completely turned off by the misguided notion that "wokeness" came to represent, since these swing voters themselves were completely unfamiliar with the term and thus were unable to determine by themselves which semantic interpretation of "wokeness" to accept as most accurate.

The right wing took full advantage of this confusion, throwing in their own, deliberately deceptive version of the term, which appeared to the uninformed voters to be as valid, if not more so, as any other. The number of voters who accepted the right wing version of the term were significant enough to swing elections away from the Democrats.

This is what Carville was warning us about, and still is. Regardless of its historic significance, which is undeniable, the meaning of "wokeness" in today's political climate is too unstable and too fluid to take advantage of as a campaign issue. More often than not, attempts to do so backfire spectacularly.

[Kid Berwyn]

15. Carville is wrong.

Rather than become more like uncaring conservatives, Democrats need to show why we are better than Republicans.

FDR’s Four Freedoms make a good start.

Freedom of Speech.
Freedom of Worship.
Freedom from Want.
Freedom from Fear.

https://www.fdrlibrary.org/four-freedoms