It's just common sense Mike!
Trump says it was common sense for Jan. 6 rioters to chant Hang Mike Pence!
Because its common sense, Jon, Trump said. Its common sense that youre supposed to protect. How can you if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that?
In the interview, Trump made clear that he wanted Pence to invalidate the electoral college votes of five states in which Joe Biden had prevailed.
The attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob determined to stop the affirmation of Bidens win resulted in the death of five people and injuries to some 140 members of law enforcement who were struck with flagpoles, batons, baseball bats and pipes. The Justice Department says 675 people have been arrested and 210 have been charged with assaulting, impeding or resisting officers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-hang-mike-pence/2021/11/12/64a17142-43b0-11ec-a88e-2aa4632af69b_story.html
Trumps defense of Hang Mike Pence! is only the most notable rationalization of violence
The people were very angry, Trump told ABC Newss Jonathan Karl, the verbal equivalent of a shrug. Karl had raised the question of Pences safety that day and mentioned the chant, prompting Trump to offer an extended riff about how it was common sense that Pence should have taken action in a half-baked effort to preserve Trumps presidency. Its nakedly self-serving in a by-now familiar way, an effort to cast the calls for execution as a natural offshoot of the crowds belief both that the election was stolen (a false belief that Trump bears primary responsibility for stoking) and that Pence could do something about it (same).
In this case, its also the functional equivalent of trying to coax a rock to run a marathon. Karl, like all objective observers, understands very well that the election was neither stolen nor tainted by significant fraud. He knows, too, that Pences ability on Jan. 6 to reject electoral votes submitted by states depended on highly dubious legal reasoning and would hardly have been accepted without question by Congress or the courts. Trump was sitting there offering the same nonsensical, self-serving chaff to a prominent journalist that he might offer to attendees at a Mar-a-Lago fashion show or a crowd at a rally mostly because he has never had the ability to moderate his rhetoric or to evaluate its political utility beyond the question, How excited do my fans get about this?
Consider that there is an ongoing investigation into the events of that day and Trumps role in them. Its reasonable to assume that Pence allies will be asked to offer testimony about what occurred; we know that some have been already. Most people in Trumps position then might therefore simply demur in response to Karls question, saying something like, well, that was obviously unacceptable even if that comment sat alongside the other claims about fraud. But Trump cant or wont offer even that small concession.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/12/trump-defense-hang-pence/
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)testify before the Sedition Day Committee, then Pence is not a man.
Not to mention the man defending the chant was ok with you being killed in pursuit of he destruction of democracy and installing himself as dictator for life
and was your boss at the time.
Pence, be a man and defend democracy, not fascism.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,987 posts)To me, any one who was threatened in the way Pence was should WANT to testify.
First, to defend the Constitution (which he swore an oath to protect) and not only democracy but the lawful process which protects it.
And secondly to really stick it to the POS who was willing to let him be killed if Pence didn't do his bidding.
Your last statement sums it up completely.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)any covert means necessary, or the fascists will hunt him down again, literally. Dont think they will ever stop hunting, he must know all that.
Bannon, Miller, Meadows, etc. etc. are the captains, Pence is the VP and the President is the President in this Hells Angels gang. And of course a cadre of mob lawyers running inference and taking every advantage of a criminal justice system geared to protect the innocent, of which they are all not.
Mob prosecutions always run from the crews, to the captains, then to the top.
Justice is marching as planned at the pace of justice not the internet,
comradebillyboy
(10,176 posts)He only does the right thing when there is no other choice available to him.
twodogsbarking
(9,834 posts)rurallib
(62,460 posts)Working for an idiot maniac who may want to kill you?
Put on your man pants, Pence, and testify.