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lees1975

(3,839 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:16 PM Mar 2022

Republicans are on the horns of a dilemma

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/03/republicans-are-on-horns-of-dilemma.html

Ukraine was at the center of former President 45's first impeachment. How soon we forget? Americans, for the most part, are bored with geography, politics and history. That's why our constitutional principles are slipping out of our hands. Former President 45 withheld money appropriated by Congress for Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression to bribe President Zelensky into helping him dig up dirt on Joe Biden. There was no dirt, as was discovered in the investigation, but the illegal act of withholding money appropriated by Congress was a crime for which Forty-Five was impeached, and should have been convicted.

It has turned out to be a much bigger crime, with much more dire consequences, that it appeared to be at the time.

So the Republicans are also now caught between a swell of public opinion on the side of Ukraine and against Russia, whose dictator has been lauded and praised by none other than President Pushover himself, former 45. What they are hoping is that a majority of Americans are ignorant, uneducated, and have very short memories and will forget that former President 45 has been a frequent contributor to Ukraine's woes, and is a supporter of the dictator, and his values, that is now attacking them without provocation.

This one won't get walked back.
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Republicans are on the horns of a dilemma (Original Post) lees1975 Mar 2022 OP
I bet I know how they will try to apologize for Traitor Trump: They'll say Trump had no idea that LaMouffette Mar 2022 #1
"NOBODY could've seen that coming!" Harker Mar 2022 #7
I hope the sanctions somehow lead to indicting Trump for his Russian money laundering. LaMouffette Mar 2022 #12
That would be a pleasant little ray of light in all this horror... Harker Mar 2022 #14
I'm not so sure TFG held up the support just to get dirt on Biden. world wide wally Mar 2022 #2
+33. Harker Mar 2022 #5
Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map of Ukraine Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #6
"Kiev... is that where the chickens come from?" n/t Harker Mar 2022 #8
and let's remember how Trump bowed to Putin in 2016 RussBLib Mar 2022 #10
What was all that conversation about "Quid Pro Quo"? lees1975 Mar 2022 #11
Exactly. Putin put him up to the scheme; convinced him it'd be great for his campaign. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #15
I'm sure Trumpsky is uneasy about this, as are all those whose revenue flow is being disrupted Harker Mar 2022 #3
The only way to deliver this info to the MAGAts is a county & western song. NCjack Mar 2022 #4
The rhymes are really popping into my mind now. n/t Harker Mar 2022 #9
Do share! lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #16
You write the tune, and I'll get cracking! Harker Mar 2022 #17
Hmm, unless you can put lyrics to space ambient, I'm not your composer... lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #18
Well, you got me to listen to a piece. Harker Mar 2022 #19
Ha! I was joking, but vocal samples are sometimes used... lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #20
It's there somewhere... Harker Mar 2022 #21
Dude. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #22
Space is where it's at. Harker Mar 2022 #24
Whhhooooosshh! lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #25
Thanks for the inspiration! Harker Mar 2022 #26
Why do so many use the term "bribe" to describe extortion? lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #13
well-said Skittles Mar 2022 #23

LaMouffette

(2,020 posts)
1. I bet I know how they will try to apologize for Traitor Trump: They'll say Trump had no idea that
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:25 PM
Mar 2022

Putin was so bad! Heck, they'll say, NOBODY knew Putin was capable of such atrocities!

God, how I hate their self-serving contortions and corruption.

Harker

(13,977 posts)
7. "NOBODY could've seen that coming!"
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:49 PM
Mar 2022

I think you're right on the money.

Speaking of money... sanctioning Russian banks and oligarchs is going to put a huge squeeze on Trumpsky. As Eric Trumpsky reportedly said, they don't rely on American banks...

Harker

(13,977 posts)
14. That would be a pleasant little ray of light in all this horror...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:45 PM
Mar 2022

and an ironic one, too.

The international spotlight is going to be lighting up a lot of dark little corners, I think.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
2. I'm not so sure TFG held up the support just to get dirt on Biden.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:28 PM
Mar 2022

I think he was acting in the best interests of Putin. (Under orders, of course)

Harker

(13,977 posts)
5. +33.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:35 PM
Mar 2022

Help Putin, get something of personal value. His version of a big win.

He probably hadn't heard of President Zelensky and couldn't find Ukraine on a map until he tried to strongarm him. "I just need to find..."

RussBLib

(9,003 posts)
10. and let's remember how Trump bowed to Putin in 2016
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 03:11 PM
Mar 2022

to water down the language of supplying "lethal defense" weaponry to Ukraine to just providing assistance in the GOP platform.

Doing Putin's bidding since at least 2016. Probably much earlier than that

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/07/18/trump-deferring-to-putin-deleted-gop-platforms-call-to-supply-ukraine-with-lethal-defensive-weapons/

lees1975

(3,839 posts)
11. What was all that conversation about "Quid Pro Quo"?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:30 PM
Mar 2022

He owed a debt for Putin helping him win the 2016 election.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. Exactly. Putin put him up to the scheme; convinced him it'd be great for his campaign.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:46 PM
Mar 2022

But the real goal was to hurt Ukraine.

Ukraine is the one single reason that Putin installed Trump in 2016 and tried to keep him in power in 2020.

Everything Trump did, goes back to supporting Putin's Ukraine plot. Trying to break up NATO, extorting Ukraine, praising Putin: it's all part of the same plot. My guess is that Trump knew perfectly well he was committing crimes, but never saw the big picture. But I could be wrong.

Harker

(13,977 posts)
3. I'm sure Trumpsky is uneasy about this, as are all those whose revenue flow is being disrupted
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:31 PM
Mar 2022

by sanctions.

There's a multifarious lesson in here somewhere about hitching your fortune to a dangerous, ignorant demagogue.

Harker

(13,977 posts)
17. You write the tune, and I'll get cracking!
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:50 PM
Mar 2022

Putin shootin', I believe in Kiev, prayin' for Ukraine.

Just bits.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Hmm, unless you can put lyrics to space ambient, I'm not your composer...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:56 PM
Mar 2022


But I can toss in a few rhymes:

rootin' fer Pootin
heave 'em outta Kyiv
breaker, breaker, we got ourselves a convoy.... ...ahhhh, shitsky.
MiGs versus MiGs full of pigs
suck mah Sukhoi
I was towin' a tank, rollin' down the road, took it away from Putin's toad...

Harker

(13,977 posts)
19. Well, you got me to listen to a piece.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:17 PM
Mar 2022

It was reminiscent of some of Vangelis's music for "Bladerunner" (I won't assume it to be typical), and it'll be a challenge til I find the beat...

I think we have a hit on our hands. Space ambient with occasional, disjointed voiceovers of spoken lines in various voices.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. Ha! I was joking, but vocal samples are sometimes used...
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:19 PM
Mar 2022

and might just work!



But, yeah, good luck finding a beat. We work hard to avoid making a beat.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
22. Dude.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:27 PM
Mar 2022

That's beautiful!

Genuinely poetic. Compactly expressing a place, a state of mind, an emotional wilderness.

Harker

(13,977 posts)
24. Space is where it's at.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:41 PM
Mar 2022

I have a sense of my fixed-form poems being captured in an uncharted, sweeping elliptical orbit about a distant, unnamed ice giant.

Harker

(13,977 posts)
26. Thanks for the inspiration!
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 05:53 PM
Mar 2022

I've been suffering from a thirty year lack of motivation on my opera about Manfred von Richthofen (sung in German, French, English, and Australian) and I've gone nowhere turning Hermann Hesse's "Knulp" into an operetta, aside from being sure the voice of the god will be a mezzo soprano.

I never get anywhere on big ideas.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Why do so many use the term "bribe" to describe extortion?
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:43 PM
Mar 2022

It's infuriating corruption of the language to water down the crime.

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