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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:53 PM Mar 2022

'It means the end of Putin': Former NATO commander Wesley Clark explains Ukraine war.

*A: The most important move now is for the president to announce Vladimir Putin is a war criminal. Really. This gives enormous diplomatic leverage and a greater incentive to help the campaign. . .

A: Firstly, it can rally European support even more strongly — European governments are all attentive to the concept of war crimes. Secondly, it reinforces Ukraine by supporting President [Volodymyr] Zelensky. And third, if it goes through, it means the end of Putin as a world leader no matter how this turns out. It’s a very powerful move. Putin doesn’t really care about the money. He does care about his reputation — and so does China. . .

Q: NATO seems to be wimping out slightly — they’re saying members, such as Poland, cannot even fly fighter planes to Ukraine through NATO airspace.

A: This is wrongheaded. This is driven by the United States, and I would urge the United States to reconsider this. Russia does not own the borders of Ukraine. They belong to Ukraine. Ukraine is a nation under threat. And under the United Nations Charter, nations have the right to request assistance for self-defense. . .

Q: You advocate a no-fly zone?

A: Absolutely. The airspace belongs to Ukraine. If they ask for help, why can’t we fly airplanes in there? Say, oh, it’s because of the Russians, they might come up and contest it. That’s the Russians’ problem. They’re going to get shot down. Okay, then what? Putin says he’s going to use a nuclear weapon. If we back away from that challenge, if we don’t confront it, this is like a two-pair poker bluff, for incredibly high stakes.'>>>

https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/former-nato-commander-wesley-clark-urges-us-to-reconsider-no-fly-zone/

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'It means the end of Putin': Former NATO commander Wesley Clark explains Ukraine war. (Original Post) elleng Mar 2022 OP
The US did not stop the Ukrainians from getting more fighter jets relayerbob Mar 2022 #1
Clark is thinking ahead. How to BootinUp Mar 2022 #2
Gen. Clark is so savvy; I respect his thoughts immensely. He can always put a finger on the pulse Karadeniz Mar 2022 #3
The Russians will have to be confronted sooner or later, and a no-fly zone request is legit andym Mar 2022 #4

Karadeniz

(22,503 posts)
3. Gen. Clark is so savvy; I respect his thoughts immensely. He can always put a finger on the pulse
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 05:16 PM
Mar 2022

of the problem.

andym

(5,443 posts)
4. The Russians will have to be confronted sooner or later, and a no-fly zone request is legit
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 06:56 PM
Mar 2022

Because it comes from the leader of Ukraine. Ukraine is not in any special sphere of Russian influence, at least not yet.

Gen. Clark understands modern Russian thinking and the European theater of potential military action as well as any military commander. His advice is both savvy and potentially dangerous. However, JFK confronted the Russians successfully during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and so should Biden. Sometimes the President of the US needs to gamble and stand up against an international bully. Might does not make right.

If we don't act, Putin goes after Moldava, Georgia and the Finland, etc. He has made his goal clear, the restoration of the Eastern bloc/Russian empire.

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