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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:26 PM Mar 2022

Could Russian mercenaries conquer the world?

Four days before the invasion of Ukraine, an eerily prescient documentary aired on France 5. Le monde en face:Wagner, l’armée de l’ombre de Poutine assiduously tracks the activities of the Russian President’s “shadow army”: the Wagner Group, which arranges military “solutions” for the Kremlin. Since the film was broadcast, members of the 6,000-strong mercenary organisation have been deployed to Ukraine. Their orders: to kill President Zelenskyy and dismember his government.

This isn’t the first time the Wagner Group has taken part in a war; it’s just the first time it’s caught the attention of UK newspapers. In France, though, it has been on the radar for years. And with good reason. The Putin regime has long had bases in the south of France (Putin himself was actually holidaying in Biarritz when Yeltsin called him with the order to take over the Kremlin). But more pressingly, in the last decade Wagner have increasingly interfered in French zones of influence in the Middle East and Africa: Syria, Libya, the Central African Republic and, in January this year, Mali, the focus of France’s Operation Barkhane against Sahel jihadists.

As Alexandra Jousset and Ksenia Bolchakova’s TV documentary made plain, the key problem in understanding the Wagner Group is this: it does not officially exist. No company of that name is registered in Russia. Instead, Wagner is a grey network of Russian businesses and mercenary activity. But what is clear in the murk are two key figures.

Wagner’s founder and leader is former Russian special forces officer Dmitry Utkin, a veteran of the Chechen wars. Reputedly, Lieutenant-colonel Utkin’s military call sign was “Wagner”, after Hitler’s favourite composer (Utkin is obsessed with Nazi Germany, suggesting Putin’s “de-nazification” programme could start closer to home than the Ukraine). But the power behind the Wagnerian throne is oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is serially sanctioned by the United States, including for his financing of the troll-factory Internet Research Agency, which interfered in American elections in 2016 and 2018.

https://unherd.com/2022/03/will-russian-mercenaries-conquer-the-world/

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Could Russian mercenaries conquer the world? (Original Post) milestogo Mar 2022 OP
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1
No...the ppl publishing this need to read their history PortTack Mar 2022 #2
Try reading past the headline. milestogo Mar 2022 #3
I read it. And I stand by what I said..it's true PortTack Mar 2022 #4
Sounds like hype to me. Martin68 Mar 2022 #5
You mean the ones who had their collective asses kicked by our guys in Syria? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 #6
I was just going to mention that. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #8
Not a chance. They'd have to defeat Eric Prince's mercenary army and 3Hotdogs Mar 2022 #7

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
2. No...the ppl publishing this need to read their history
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:45 PM
Mar 2022

Every wanna be emperor, dictator, strong man from the beginning of written history that has tried has failed.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
8. I was just going to mention that.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:43 AM
Mar 2022

They got their asses handed to them.

https://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073


'A Total F***up': Russian Mercenaries in Syria Lament U.S. Strike That Killed Dozens

In the first audio clip, a man says, "One squadron fucking lost 200 people...right away, another one lost 10 people…and I don't know about the third squadron but it got torn up pretty badly, too.... So three squadrons took a beating."


Was definitely not a good day for those Kremlin backed Russian mercenaries.

3Hotdogs

(12,391 posts)
7. Not a chance. They'd have to defeat Eric Prince's mercenary army and
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:09 AM
Mar 2022

Eric is a Christian, unlike atheist commie Russians.

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