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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:43 AM Mar 2022

Biden admin weighs providing Ukraine with killer drones called Switchblades



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The Switchblades are essentially robotic smart bombs, equipped with cameras, guidance systems and explosives. They can be programmed to automatically strike targets miles away, and they can be steered around objectives until the time is right to strike. The company says the 600 can fly for 40 minutes and up to 50 miles.

They are single-use weapons, which is why they have been dubbed “kamikaze drones.” But they are orders of magnitude cheaper than the Hellfire missiles fired by U.S. Reaper drones. The 300 can cost as little as $6,000, by some estimates.

Both weapons can be set up in minutes and launched from tubes. They fly much faster than the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones that Ukraine has been using to inflict damage on Russia, and presumably they would be able to penetrate the spotty air defenses Russia is maintaining over its forces.

If the Switchblade were given to Ukraine, it could result in the most significant use of the weapon in combat to date. The U.S. military used the Switchblade in combat under limited circumstances in Afghanistan and elsewhere but has not publicized that fact, sources familiar with the matter have said.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ukraine-asks-biden-admin-armed-drones-jamming-gear-surface-air-missile-rcna20197

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Biden admin weighs providing Ukraine with killer drones called Switchblades (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2022 OP
Go for it. Get this done sooner than later. Than make Russia pay for the damage. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #1
No time to weigh it. Send them now, people are dying. Autumn Mar 2022 #2
Do it. Today. CanonRay Mar 2022 #3
Dangerous- James48 Mar 2022 #4
Here I go assuming again but I would think the target would be spotted by a ground observer mitch96 Mar 2022 #5
The US used the Switchblade in combat in Afghanistan and other places. Autumn Mar 2022 #6
I don't think Ukranian tanks are going head-to-head with Russian tanks. They are unlikely to be that Martin68 Mar 2022 #7
Yes, they are. James48 Mar 2022 #8
From what I've read, they are mainly using artillery and ambushing them with anti-tank weapons. Martin68 Mar 2022 #9
Martin- James48 Mar 2022 #10
Not AI. Operator-controlled. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #12
DO IT! lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #11

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
3. Do it. Today.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

The Russians are shifting more troops from the Georgia border. Wish Georgia would attract the remaining ones.

James48

(4,435 posts)
4. Dangerous-
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:58 AM
Mar 2022

If these drones operate on AI, how will they tell if the tank the come up on is a Russian or a Ukrainian T-72?
It will just blow away whatever it is.

Think hard if you want that on the battlefield, because it is a two-edge sword.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
5. Here I go assuming again but I would think the target would be spotted by a ground observer
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:30 PM
Mar 2022

first, coordinates given and programed into the device. Or maybe a friendly spy in the sky doing overwatch? ymmv
m

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
6. The US used the Switchblade in combat in Afghanistan and other places.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:27 PM
Mar 2022

They have been battlefield tested. The UK is the only other country we have sold them to.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/2021/03/19/uk_to_buy_switchblade_loitering_munition_768941.html

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
7. I don't think Ukranian tanks are going head-to-head with Russian tanks. They are unlikely to be that
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:27 PM
Mar 2022

close together.

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
9. From what I've read, they are mainly using artillery and ambushing them with anti-tank weapons.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:16 PM
Mar 2022

The Ukrainians can't win a classic tank battle.

James48

(4,435 posts)
10. Martin-
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:34 PM
Mar 2022

The Ukrainians are outnumbered in tanks on the order of 10 to 1. They won’t last long going head to head. But yes, they are attacking/counter attacking with tanks at times. Ukraine is using everything they have to try and stop the Russians. Including Ukrainian tanks. Against Russian tanks, and BMPs, and every kind of Russian vehicle, and against the Russian infantry when they find dismounted soldiers.

It’s a very difficult battlefield when both sides are using the same equipment, and you have to be sure which side is firing at you. That’s why the Russians painted the recognition markings.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Not AI. Operator-controlled.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 10:11 AM
Mar 2022

"Unlike most weapons, the Switchblade can also disengage or abort a mission at any time, and then recommit to another target depending on what the operator commands."

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/17/switchblade-drones-what-are-these-kamikaze-weapons-and-how-can-they-help-ukraine

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