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appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 02:28 PM Mar 2022

U.K. COVID Cases Are Rising. Health Officials Are Watching To See If The U.S. Is Next, NPR

NPR, March 19, 2022. - Ed.

U.S. health officials are watching the climb in COVID case numbers in the U.K. with concern. Daily case counts there have more than doubled, and hospitalizations are on the upswing. "Over the last year or so, what happens in the U.K. usually happens here a few weeks later," Dr. Anthony Fauci, the President's chief medical advisor said in an interview with NPR. "And right now, the U.K. is seeing somewhat of a rebound in cases."

Officials in the U.K. attribute the increase to the quick-spreading BA.2 omicron subvariant, the widespread removal of COVID restrictions, and to waning immunity from vaccinations and infections. "All 3 of those factors we have here in the U.S.," says Fauci, "So I would not be surprised if in the next few weeks we see either a plateauing...of cases or even [the curve] rebounds and slightly goes up. That is entirely conceivable. And we're just going to have to follow it carefully." (See GRAPH, Trends in U.S. cases since December. New daily cases7-day average -).

The CDC's COVID tracker shows that daily cases have dropped to their lowest levels since July 2021 – but the rate of decline in cases has slowed significantly and may be on track to level off. Wastewater surveillance also points to an uptick in viral activity at sites around the country. Experts caution that this data is new and untested, but consider it another potential sign that the U.S. could see new case growth. The wastewater system does not distinguish between omicron and sublineages, like BA.2..

But other data show the BA.2 subvariant is taking hold in the U.S. The CDC estimates that it's responsible for nearly a quarter of new COVID cases in the country so far. It's concerning because it's around 30% more transmissible than the original omicron, and less susceptible to some existing COVID treatments. The impact will depend in part on how effective existing immunity turn out to be, and how long it lasts after someone has been vaccinated, boosted, or recovered from infection. Health officials say they're watching the signals carefully, but don't yet see a reason to encourage the country to mask back up...

- More, https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/19/1087682826/omicron-variant-ba2-surge
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- Also: Stealth' COVID Variant Spreading Faster in NY Than US, CDC Says: What to Know About BA.2, NBC, March 18, https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2890744

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U.K. COVID Cases Are Rising. Health Officials Are Watching To See If The U.S. Is Next, NPR (Original Post) appalachiablue Mar 2022 OP
We are braced as we expect it to happen pandr32 Mar 2022 #1
Still masking, and pushing some F&F at risk to get 4th shot. Sorry appalachiablue Mar 2022 #2
Thank you. It is beautiful. pandr32 Mar 2022 #8
This new wave has had a high likelihood of coming for several RockCreek Mar 2022 #3
Same, the CDC again.. appalachiablue Mar 2022 #5
They may be under intense pressure pandr32 Mar 2022 #9
The CDC is a public health agency RockCreek Mar 2022 #13
IK, it's been surmised that the CDC is under pressure appalachiablue Mar 2022 #14
I have yet to visit Kauai pandr32 Mar 2022 #16
Why would the US be different? The vaccine loses effectiveness, period. We should be smarter. JudyM Mar 2022 #4
Agree, and the CDC, say no more.. :( appalachiablue Mar 2022 #6
Yes we should pandr32 Mar 2022 #10
If only we could quantify and recoup the excess costs due to GQP and faux snooze. JudyM Mar 2022 #11
Agreed pandr32 Mar 2022 #12
When reports came out that omicron cases were dropping, wnylib Mar 2022 #7
All of that. I don't intend to stop wearing an N95 for some time. And, appalachiablue Mar 2022 #15
Most people are unmasking (thanks, CDC and GOP). So, yes, we are next. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #17

pandr32

(11,540 posts)
1. We are braced as we expect it to happen
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 02:35 PM
Mar 2022

Unlike far too many who took off their masks and returned to restaurants and bars. On the island we live (Hawaii Island) there are many un-vaccinated people. The worst numbers in the State. Tourism is back in full swing as well.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
2. Still masking, and pushing some F&F at risk to get 4th shot. Sorry
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 02:41 PM
Mar 2022

to hear that about your island, WC friends just returned from there and Kona. I only had time to see Kauai and it was lovely.

pandr32

(11,540 posts)
8. Thank you. It is beautiful.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:27 PM
Mar 2022

Like many other places the economy depends on tourism. The problem is that some of the tourists are from places that don't take the masking and social distancing precautions seriously. They don't mask or distance if they can get away with it.
Locals here are pretty evenly divided about whether vaccinations are safe or not and also about masking being an infringement on personal rights. That 50% lives in population pockets where Covid transmits freely. We live in East Hawaii Island where most of that 50% live. It is frustrating.
Right now the number of cases here is almost double the rest of the State. We don't go out much obviously. I'm okay with that. We have property, dogs, a pool, and streaming.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
3. This new wave has had a high likelihood of coming for several
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 03:02 PM
Mar 2022

The data have suggested that this new wave has had a high likelihood of coming for several weeks now. B2 appears to be highest in the NE so far. IMO it was highly irresponsible for the CDC to have been minimizing the need for masks, and for governors and school boards to have removed mask mandates in recent weeks.

pandr32

(11,540 posts)
9. They may be under intense pressure
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:30 PM
Mar 2022

Businesses have been screaming and hollering here. Most of our money comes from tourism.
I would bet the CDC has been under serious pressure to relax restrictions.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
13. The CDC is a public health agency
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:59 PM
Mar 2022

The CDC is a public health agency, not a political tool. They make recommendations. Politicians can ignore the recommendations as they choose -- eg: look at DeSantis.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
14. IK, it's been surmised that the CDC is under pressure
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:41 AM
Mar 2022

to ease up restrictions and it's caused a lot of criticism. We have to mask and protect against this beast to try to stop the growth of new cases and more variants. I hear a good deal about the business pressure.

Complex issues, open schools needed for people to send their kids given this country's spare childcare and social services system. Grocery stores, pharmacies and much more where staff can't work remotely from home.

It was disturbing to read about nurses and health care employees being told to come to work even if they were sick. Many hospitals, esp. those that are corporate run already keep the staffing, supplies and bed space at the edge, 'to save costs.' Not good.

Workers in retail, warehouse, domestic and other jobs who are afraid to admit exposure and infection for fear of having to stay home and lose pay. Difficult times.

Anyway, I love to travel and the tourism industry I have some experience with from work at museums, cultural attractions and a visitors center in an historic area. Aloha! Years ago, friends from college opened a business on Kauai, the Hanalei Cafe, a cute, popular place. They may have retired by now. On a short trip we saw fun Tahiti Nui's, the beautiful seacoast, Waimea Canyon, more.

pandr32

(11,540 posts)
16. I have yet to visit Kauai
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:48 PM
Mar 2022

It does seem beautiful. We fly between here and Oahu mostly, but not at all since this pandemic.

JudyM

(29,176 posts)
4. Why would the US be different? The vaccine loses effectiveness, period. We should be smarter.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 03:05 PM
Mar 2022
But by the time the signs of an outbreak are clear, it can be hard to quash, notes Jeffrey Shaman, a professor at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health: "The longer you wait to act on it, the less effective [those actions are at] actually preventing deaths." Recent surges show "it will get ahead of you if you don't jump on it early, if you don't put the controls in place," he says.


Disappointed in what I can only assume is CDC’s fear of public/political backlash. We should be remasking now in states where there’s an uptick. And getting 2nd boosters.

pandr32

(11,540 posts)
10. Yes we should
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:34 PM
Mar 2022

Consequences for not doing so are real and largely preventable. I also wonder what the financial costs of it all is on our country. It must be staggering.

wnylib

(21,283 posts)
7. When reports came out that omicron cases were dropping,
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:29 PM
Mar 2022

my first thought was that we were going into another lull before another variant wave. Not like it's never happened before. Seems to be a regular pattern. It doesn't go away by wishing it to.

Nobody has asked me why I still wear an N95 mask, but they do look at me with patronizing smiles, smirks, and raised eyebrows. Mostly I ignore them. Sometimes I remind them that decreased reporting of cases does not mean that the virus is gone, especially since most cases are no longer officially reported now that we have home tests.

There is also the fact that new variants circulate in a community for a few weeks before they are officially recognized and reported. Why leave yourself vulnerable to being among the first in your area to get it?

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
15. All of that. I don't intend to stop wearing an N95 for some time. And,
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:51 AM
Mar 2022

there were the inaccurate and damaging earlier news stories that 'Omicron was 'milder,' not as serious.' For who? Bunk!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Most people are unmasking (thanks, CDC and GOP). So, yes, we are next.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:52 PM
Mar 2022


I'm glad I've had 3 shots, but we need an updated shot next.
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