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BootinUp

(47,143 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:06 PM Mar 2022

Russian Army's Fail No Surprise to CIA Official Who Battled It in Afghanistan

The Russian military’s poor performance in Ukraine comes as no surprise to the former CIA officer who ran the agency’s covert operation against the Red Army in Afghanistan four decades ago.


Russia’s best were plagued by bad maintenance, poor chains of command, low morale, alcoholism and desertions—and of course, the hit-and-run tactics of the CIA-backed Afghan “holy warriors,” whom the U.S. eventually armed with game-changing Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. The Red Air Force had no answer for them. The vaunted Red Army reeled.

“Their equipment sucked,” says Milton Bearden, CIA station chief in Pakistan during the most vigorous chapters of the agency’s proxy war against Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the mid-to-late 1980s.

The Red Army’s medical kits included glass bottles that might have been holdovers from World War Two, Bearden told SpyTalk, instead of the plastic vials in use by American and other contemporary military services. Kits captured by the Afghan guerrillas “were bags of broken glass and liquid,” he said. “They could get a rocket going, but they couldn't make a ballpoint pen. That little ball bearing at the end of the pen? They couldn’t make those.”

https://www.spytalk.co/p/russian-armys-fail-no-surprise-to?r=2hta&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Russian Army's Fail No Surprise to CIA Official Who Battled It in Afghanistan (Original Post) BootinUp Mar 2022 OP
Enlightening post Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #1
So for those pundits out there, and others that keep saying Putin has yet to send in his elite PortTack Mar 2022 #2
With All The Corruption... GB_RN Mar 2022 #3
+1000 PortTack Mar 2022 #4
Talking Point: Hieronymus Phact Mar 2022 #5

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
2. So for those pundits out there, and others that keep saying Putin has yet to send in his elite
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:36 PM
Mar 2022

Kinda puts the kibosh on that idea. Rather it’s SOP- inferior equipment and poorly trained soldiers.

On edit: pootie really shoulda stayed home. now the whole world knows they have a third rate military...at best

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
3. With All The Corruption...
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 12:27 AM
Mar 2022

It makes sense. His oligarch buddies siphon off all the money that would ordinarily go to the defense spending, so only cheap-ass shit gets built and shipped to the military. Russia relies mostly on conscripts who aren’t paid for shit, so they don’t have many reliable troops outside of a few professional groups of soldiers like the Spetznaz. And Putin can’t afford to throw away soldiers that cost a fortune and years to train.

In short, he’s fucked, six ways from Sunday.

Hieronymus Phact

(369 posts)
5. Talking Point:
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 08:07 AM
Mar 2022

This is exactly what would become of our military if trumps corruption was allowed to continued to its logical outcome.

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