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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:50 PM May 2022

The real reason America could buck the global trend on abortion

(CNN)The right of women to decide if they want to carry their pregnancies to term is expanding around much of the globe. In Latin America, a deeply Catholic region, the so-called Green Wave is sweeping away restrictions in country after country. To the north, however, the United States is seeming ready to buck a global trend, taking away women's right to decide whether or not to have an abortion.

But why does the US appear to be moving in the opposite direction as much of the rest of the world? And what other rights might be at risk?

The bombshell revelation that the US Supreme Court seems prepared to overturn Roe vs. Wade, the decades-old ruling legalizing abortion, added to the impression around the world that the US, long a bastion of individual freedom, is becoming a more conservative country by the day.

That, however, is the wrong conclusion. The engine driving this change is not a more conservative country. Instead, it is a more dysfunctional political system.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/opinions/america-bucking-global-trend-abortion-rights-ghitis/index.html

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The real reason America could buck the global trend on abortion (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 OP
One of the other downstream effects Turbineguy May 2022 #1
As I've said repeatedly, there is nothing conservative about that, elleng May 2022 #2
Minority rule will be the end of this country Freddie May 2022 #3
"Instead, it is a more dysfunctional political system." CrispyQ May 2022 #4
What do you mean could? We bucked the trend via two different means back in 2016. LonePirate May 2022 #5
Rise in christofascism since Reagan. Thomas Hurt May 2022 #6
Yes, they are reactionaries. raging moderate May 2022 #7
I am increasingly more impressed with what Ms.Ghitis writes Skittles May 2022 #8
Opinion bekzclz11 May 2022 #9
Frida Ghitis, is that you? Brother Buzz May 2022 #10
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado May 2022 #11
actually llashram May 2022 #12

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
1. One of the other downstream effects
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:55 PM
May 2022

will be loss of influence around the world. Who wants to be like us? Who wants to trust the US?

elleng

(130,974 posts)
2. As I've said repeatedly, there is nothing conservative about that,
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:56 PM
May 2022

these RADICAL changes are being perpetuated by a mass of power-hungry 'somethings.'

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
4. "Instead, it is a more dysfunctional political system."
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:59 PM
May 2022
How can a democratic system potentially bulldoze away established rights favored by the people from whom all power is supposed to flow? That is possible only because the system is not functioning as it was meant to.

The Supreme Court that, according to the leaked document, has voted to rip away from American women a fundamental right guaranteed to more and more women around the world, is made up of judges whose path to the court is littered with democratic malfunction. Five of the nine were nominated by presidents who took office after losing the popular vote but winning the Electoral College -- Donald Trump and George W. Bush (though Bush won a popular majority for his second term, not his first).



Excellent commentary.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. Rise in christofascism since Reagan.
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:23 PM
May 2022

The fundies and their extremists political allies did it openly for the last forty years. No shadowy conspiracy, just open political organizing and fearmongering, scapegoating, racism, anti-intellectualism, misogyny, etc.

The Pig just brought it to a head.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
7. Yes, they are reactionaries.
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:42 PM
May 2022

I don't see the word "reactionary" used very much these days. In my youth, that was the word that was used to describe people like these christofascists. And by the way, not all of them are christofascists. These silly fundamentalists in some ways are being used by elitists. I have a brother who is very right-wing and very atheist. Some of these people want to eturn to the "good old days" when rich white people swaggered around calling all the shots. I often read comments on Facebook about how "we are losing our good old "American" country and our culture." They don't want the "inferior" human beings to have the same power or luxury that they have themselves.

We should not let these people get away with pretending that Democrats are elitists.

bekzclz11

(1 post)
9. Opinion
Mon May 9, 2022, 02:38 PM
May 2022

Last edited Wed Jun 29, 2022, 04:04 AM - Edit history (1)

The right of women to decide if they want to carry their pregnancies to term is expanding around much of the globe. In Latin America, a deeply Catholic region, the so-called Green Wave is sweeping away restrictions in country after country. To the north, however, the United States is seeming ready to buck a global trend, taking away women's right to decide whether or not to have an abortion.
The bombshell revelation that the US Supreme Court seems prepared to overturn Roe vs. Wade, the decades-old ruling legalizing abortion, added to the impression around the world that the US, long a bastion of individual freedom, is becoming a more conservative country by the day.
That, however, is the wrong conclusion. The engine driving this change is not a more conservative country. Instead, it is a more dysfunctional political system.
In the past couple of decades, dozens of countries have changed their abortion laws, almost all of them made abortion more accessible. In most developed countries, abortion has remained available and not terribly controversial.
The American people have consistently told pollsters that they want the freedom guaranteed under Roe v. Wade to remain in place. Poll after poll, year after year, a solid majority of Americans have made that clear. And yet, the Supreme Court, judging by the draft opinion just leaked, has voted to take away a fundamental right that was supposed to be "settled law." That said, the leak is just a draft and may not prove to be the court's final decision.
How can a democratic system potentially bulldoze away established rights favored by the people from whom all power is supposed to flow? That is possible only because the system is not functioning as it was meant to.
he Supreme Court that, according to the leaked document, has voted to rip away from American women a fundamental right guaranteed to more and more women around the world, is made up of judges whose path to the court is littered with democratic malfunction. Five of the nine were nominated by presidents who took office after losing the popular vote but winning the Electoral College -- Donald Trump and George W. Bush (though Bush won a popular majority for his second term, not his first).
The court would also look very different if Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell had not engaged in trickery, blocking then-President Barack Obama from filling a court vacancy by claiming a presidential election was approaching when Justice Antonin Scalia died in February 2016, and Obama still had nearly a year in office. Without any sign of embarrassment, in 2020, McConnell expedited confirmation of Trump's nominee Amy Coney Barrett after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died only weeks before the elections.
Without those underhanded maneuvers, the court could have a liberal majority today, and abortion rights would not be at risk.
It seems that now, despite public opinion, despite the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of religion, the fundamentalist Christian view that life begins at conception could shape the law of the land.
American democracy is faltering badly. Primary elections favor activists on both parties, promoting fringe views that don't represent popular opinion. Making it worse, unequal representation means that a shrinking percentage of the population elects a growing percentage of the Senate, since each state gets two senators regardless of its size. By one estimate, 30% of Americans will elect 70% of the Senate by the year 2040.







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llashram

(6,265 posts)
12. actually
Thu May 12, 2022, 01:22 PM
May 2022

I don't think it is an irredeemable "dysfunctional political system", just dysfunctional people allowed by a dangerous putz to be that way. Can they be fixed? Some maybe, but since 1865 these types have been waiting on the likes of a d. trump and theSC court he has created. Overturning Roe v Wade should wake up many as to the danger dysfunctional fascists pose to our democracy

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