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lees1975

(3,888 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:15 AM May 2022

Here's the Narrative for Democrats in the 2022 Midterm Election Cycle

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2022/05/gifts-for-mid-terms-from-gop-to.html

We aren't politicizing the deaths of those in Buffalo, California and Uvalde who were doing something they though was safe when they were murdered. We are defending their families, standing up for them, and making sure that they did not die in vain.

The only way things will change is for people to get involved and while it may seem that voting is futile, the fact of the matter is that there is strength and power in unity and using the ballot box does bring change. The Latino population in Texas is now at 42%, equal to the non-hispanic white population. But their voice in government, including elected officials of both parties, is less than a third of that percentage. They're not "immigrants." Most of the Latino population of Texas, especially in the southern third of the state, are native born, and their ancestors were there several generations before the first white American settlers arrived.

This isn't "politicizing" these shootings. Far from it, the right had already politicized the issue by their failure to enact reasonable, constitutional laws that would have prevented these shootings and those who were murdered where they thought they were safe would still be alive. The Democrats are the only ones with the plans and proposals that will put a stop to this insanity. I'd much rather be accused of politicizing the event than to have to face yet another day grieving over a classroom full of dead children because I didn't do what I could. And voting for Democrats committed to gun control is the least that I can do
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dlk

(11,580 posts)
1. This is a moral issue
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:19 AM
May 2022

Republicans like to twist the narrative and say it’s political. We can’t let them.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
4. You are 100% right...but also way too nuanced
Sat May 28, 2022, 01:38 PM
May 2022

Ads should be before and after shots of victims...SHOW America exactly what an AR15 wound is.

Ray Rice with no video? 2 gm suspension
Ray Rice on tape knocking her out and dragging his unconscious wife by the hair? Career ended.

We cannot say we care and NOT confront this evil head on, eyes open.

There was a reason Germans were marched through the liberated camps in 45. That same reason exists with these killings.

Is it gruesome? Yes.
Is it extreme? Yes.
Is it necessary? Yes.

There are crime scene photos that would sicken us all.
But they would make this so much more real that the tide would turn. General strikes, nonviolent sit ins and civil disobedience would be motivated.

It is sickening, but we are a visual society. Do the same, get the same. Make us look this time...ot admit that we dont care THAT. much after all

OMGWTF

(3,980 posts)
10. I was at Dachau Concentration Camp in Munich and saw many groups of school kids
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:16 PM
May 2022

there learning the TRUTH about what their ancestors did so IT DOESN'T EVER HAPPEN AGAIN. America has so many sins to atone for.

FakeNoose

(32,819 posts)
7. How do we counter their claim that "The Dems are in charge"?
Sat May 28, 2022, 01:45 PM
May 2022

I mean, we have a Dem in the White House, and we have Dem majorities in both Houses of Congress.

The problems are - without a doubt - overwhelmingly the result of Chump/Repukes' mismanagement and lack of stewardship. But they're never going to admit it, are they? They're going to get their base up in anger over how we've messed up, just like always. History isn't one of their strong points and the media rarely helps us with this. By that I mean, the media never challenges the Repukes' lies by telling them just exactly where and how they're wrong.

It's not going to be easy getting Repukes to do some soul-searching on gunz, women's rights, minority rights/safety, rebuilding the infrastructure, and other important issues when all they have to do is bitch about the price of gasoline.

slightlv

(2,845 posts)
8. It's hard to come up with a plan to outsmart the repugs
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:11 PM
May 2022

because although, as you say, "we" (the Democrats) are "in charge" the Republicans are ruling from the Minority position. I honestly never understood how this could be done. But they put it out there for all to see. We have to make it clear for everyone to see and understand. It's a very nuanced position because it's counterintuitive. And, god help us, people are idiots. You win the majority of the votes, you're suppose to the ruling party. But that's not the way it works in this country. In the good old US of A, if you're the Republican party and you win the majority of votes (which rarely happens) you rule the whole ball of wax. If you don't win the majority of the votes, you still rule by being the Minority party. The Democrats HAVE to make people understand this. A good place to start would be (IMO) showcasing Manchin and Sinema. But there are others of their ilk, as well, just not as well known as backstabbers. Even I don't know them. All my representatives are died in the wool red and dumb like Marshall and Brownback's crew.

"Topping from the Bottom" is absolutely a thing... and we need for everyone of voting age in the United States to understand just what it means. They may not need to understand the sexual connotation, but they absolutely need to understand what it means in terms of voting and governance. Do Democrats in power have the intelligence and perseverance to get the word out to American citizens? To educate them? To make a difference to those to whom it will count?

"Topping from the Bottom" will drive the Evangelicals crazy. Just the implication will drive them nuts!

FakeNoose

(32,819 posts)
14. This is an excellent answer
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:49 PM
May 2022

Thank you!

I've often wondered if Kyrsten Sinema was really a Trojan Horse. If so, then she deliberately misrepresented herself in order to throw the Dem Caucus into disarray. I find it hard to believe because our party is normally diligent in their efforts to vett our candidates. Sinema was actually way more progressive before she was elected to Congress, but then she slowly moved to the center politically. Since 2018 she has moved steadily rightward after being elected to the Senate. (Much to the dismay of Democratic voters everywhere.)

I believe the Dems could do something similar and get a Trojan Horse elected as GOP Senator, because the Repukes seem to be quite irresponsible in their vetting process. If Chump thinks somebody would look good on TV - poof! they're a candidate. It's almost that easy, just ask Herschel Walker or Dr. Oz.

OMGWTF

(3,980 posts)
9. Rethugs are advertising on Spanish-speaking radio stations and it's moving the needle.
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:13 PM
May 2022

Dems better get on board or it's game. fking. over.

wnylib

(21,656 posts)
13. Yes. Dems need to realize that Latinos
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022

are conservative on abortion, are opposed to gun violence, and many are conservative on unions and labor. Many associate unions and labor with the left vs right violence in the country of their or their parents' origin.

We can reach them on gun violence, and the younger ones on abortion and labor. But it does NOT work to drop into a Latino church once in a while, or run a couple generic ads on Telemundo. We have to spend time with them, listen to them, address their needs and interests.

And, for heaven's sake, have bilingual native Spanish speakers talk with them and produce ads in Spanish. It does no good to have partially fluent Spanish speakers trying to reach people and missing nuances of what they say, or missing idioms, or misusing them.

lees1975

(3,888 posts)
16. The problem is that many of them won't register to vote
Sun May 29, 2022, 01:03 AM
May 2022

When I lived in Texas, most latinos sympathized with Democrats. But when I lived in South Texas, in a county wherre 70% of the population was Latino, all the public officials were white, conservative, rural types, because the white voters outnumbered the Latinos in spite of the population difference. And yes, the Klan was active in intimidation there.

wnylib

(21,656 posts)
17. Sounds like they could use a civil rights leader if
Sun May 29, 2022, 05:00 AM
May 2022

Klan intimidation is keeping them from the polls.

Marthe48

(17,046 posts)
12. r's use anything
Sat May 28, 2022, 02:24 PM
May 2022

Remember Michael Dukasis getting fried because Willie Horton, a convicted murderer, got a weekend pass and didn't return to prison?

Remember when f*n traitor used José Inez García Zárate to demonize Mexican nationals, and therefore all Latinos?

I don't have a problem with Dems talking about r's being responsible for the increasing number of gun deaths, especially since the assault rifle ban expired in 2004, and they are directly responsible for the deaths in Uvalde, TX.

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