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The Nightmare Scenario SCOTUS is Plotting For the 2024 Election Takeover
This scenario isnt just plausible: its probable. GOP-controlled states are already changing their state laws to allow for it, regardless of how their people vote
While the main issue being debated in Moore v Harper, scheduled for a hearing (Ed.:by SCOTUS) this October, is a gerrymander that conflicts with North Carolinas constitution, the issue at the core of the debate is whats called the Independent State Legislature Doctrine.
It literally gives state legislatures the power to pre-rig or simply hand elections to the candidate of their choice .
That doctrine the basis of John Eastman and Donald Trumps effort to get states to submit multiple slates of electors asserts that a plain reading of Article II and the 12th Amendment of the Constitution says that each states legislature has final say in which candidate gets their states Electoral College vote, governors and the will of the voters be damned.
As we are watching, the Supreme Court in collaboration with state legislatures through activists like Ginny Thomas are setting that election up right now in front of us in real time.
Famed voting rights attorney Marc Elias has a possible (requires setting aside the filibuster) solution:
We damn well better be planning for this, because its likely coming our way in just a bit more than two short years.
While the main issue being debated in Moore v Harper, scheduled for a hearing (Ed.:by SCOTUS) this October, is a gerrymander that conflicts with North Carolinas constitution, the issue at the core of the debate is whats called the Independent State Legislature Doctrine.
It literally gives state legislatures the power to pre-rig or simply hand elections to the candidate of their choice .
That doctrine the basis of John Eastman and Donald Trumps effort to get states to submit multiple slates of electors asserts that a plain reading of Article II and the 12th Amendment of the Constitution says that each states legislature has final say in which candidate gets their states Electoral College vote, governors and the will of the voters be damned.
As we are watching, the Supreme Court in collaboration with state legislatures through activists like Ginny Thomas are setting that election up right now in front of us in real time.
Famed voting rights attorney Marc Elias has a possible (requires setting aside the filibuster) solution:
Link to tweet
We damn well better be planning for this, because its likely coming our way in just a bit more than two short years.
More substantive detail at the link about how this has been discussed by GOPers for years, including by Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas in Bush v. Gore. (Not to be disregarded for source being Hartmann): https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-nightmare-scenario-scotus-is
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The Nightmare Scenario SCOTUS is Plotting For the 2024 Election Takeover (Original Post)
JudyM
Jul 2022
OP
The result of Dubya stolen election, 2016, thx to pootin, & MM's obstruction
SheltieLover
Jul 2022
#6
It is intentional design and execution to this point and we need to use all possible means to avert
JudyM
Jul 2022
#10
It's goddam treacherous thing that SCOTUS knows it enables, and a good thing Marc Elias
ancianita
Jul 2022
#7
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)1. Joe Manchin don't care.
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)2. Color me stupid
How does the "times, places, and manner of holding elections" include determining the outcome?
elleng
(130,964 posts)4. GOOD question, I agree.
elleng
(130,964 posts)3. 'Positive' thought, I don't think 'they' get to 'plot' any longer,
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)5. And another dumb question
How many House seats would they lose if the California legislature decided who won those races? Same in NY. They need to rethink this.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)6. The result of Dubya stolen election, 2016, thx to pootin, & MM's obstruction
Now get rid of them.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)10. It is intentional design and execution to this point and we need to use all possible means to avert
its continuation/exacerbation.
Devastation of Democracy.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)11. Absolutely!
ancianita
(36,066 posts)7. It's goddam treacherous thing that SCOTUS knows it enables, and a good thing Marc Elias
knows how to beat them with Law.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)8. Elias is fantastic but we need an army of Eliases.
I would like to believe our party leadership is on top of this.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)9. Bookmarking.
Thanks.