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Jilly_in_VA

(9,994 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 02:48 PM Jul 2022

THE CORRELATION BETWEEN SUNDOWN TOWNS AND BOOK BANS: FORSYTH COUNTY, GA

There has been a massive uptick in book banning in this last year, starting in July 2021. Now, this trend has been going on for a while, in clear view if you’ve been paying attention. But recently? It’s gone from a few instances here and there, queer books being quietly removed from school shelves, to city governments firing librarians for not pulling queer books from their shelves, parents demanding schools not use books with the barest hint of anything resembling CRT in teaching, even private companies like Barnes & Noble getting pressured to not sell certain books. All in the name of “protecting children.” But there’s another trend, one that is clear if you’re paying attention and far too obvious once you realize it: a lot of these towns pushing book bans are historically linked to being sundown towns. Especially in Forsyth County, Georgia.

WHAT ARE SUNDOWN TOWNS?
If you need a refresher, or like me grew up in a Southern/very conservative area (the two are not synonymous) and they just didn’t get to this in history classes, sundown towns are pretty close to what it says on the tin. During the Jim Crow Era, if you were not white or Christian, though these towns usually focused on Black individuals, you best be out of town before the sun sets. Sometimes, it wasn’t just a town, it was an entire county. If a Black family tried to move into the area, they would be harassed until they had to move out for their own safety. If you were passing through, you would be watched until you left, and if you didn’t make it out before the streetlamps came on, I hope you had some way of protecting yourself. Most of these towns or counties didn’t have ordinances on the books calling for this, the vast majority of the time it was the community coming together and collectively deciding that folks that didn’t look like them were not welcome and could not stay. With, of course, the exception of maybe one or two black families who were in service to white folks living there, and any interracial children that happened. They could stay, but that does not mean they were welcome.

If you’ve heard of the green book, it was probably in this context. The Negro Motorist Green Book listed towns that were safe for Black road-trippers to visit, where they wouldn’t be denied food or accommodation at restaurants and hotels, and won’t have to fear for their lives. It covered not just the United States, but also Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda. It became known as “the bible of Black travel during Jim Crow,” and remained in publication, getting regularly updated, until the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964.

If you’re interested, there’s actually an online database, started by James W. Loewen of Lies My Teacher Told Me fame, where you can click on a state and see a list of what sundown towns or counties have been recorded thus far in that state. There are only two states not listed on the map, those being Alaska and Hawai’i. Every other state has at least a small handful of sundown towns in them. Even your super liberal state. Some places like Texas and Kentucky have a lot. This is a living database as well. It is not complete and only lists those that have enough information to confirm it as a sundown. They also track what towns have worked to rectify the past and do better. I highly recommend clicking through and checking out their other resources, as there is a lot more than just a database.

WHAT’S THAT GOT TO DO WITH FORSYTH COUNTY, GA AND BOOK BANS?
Forsyth county (not the city, that’s in a different county) is one of my county’s neighbors in Georgia, and the entire county was sundown. To an extreme amount. In 1912, in Oscarville, a white teenage girl was found beaten in the woods. Some local newspapers reported that she was raped. She ended up being in a coma for two weeks before dying from her injuries. One Black man was arrested for the crime and confessed (after being threatened with drowning and subjected to “mock lynching”) and four other Black men were arrested as well, three as suspects and one as a witness. Later the same day those four Black men were brought in, a white lynch mob broke into the jail house, shot one of the Black men in his cell, dragged his body through the streets and strung him up from a telephone pole. And that was just the beginning.

https://bookriot.com/sundown-towns-and-book-bans/

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THE CORRELATION BETWEEN SUNDOWN TOWNS AND BOOK BANS: FORSYTH COUNTY, GA (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 OP
My Dad grew up in 1930s in Nashville SCantiGOP Jul 2022 #1
There's one here in Illinois that I know of. Pekin Illinois. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2022 #2
He may have seen a sign like that. But it would have been applicable only to that particular area . scarletlib Jul 2022 #3

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
1. My Dad grew up in 1930s in Nashville
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jul 2022

He said he could remember signs in some parts of town that said “(blank) don’t let the sun set on your head.” And they did use the N word on the signs.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
2. There's one here in Illinois that I know of. Pekin Illinois.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 11:46 PM
Jul 2022

My partner’s family is from there

The high school mascot was “The Pekin Chinks” - hat, rickshaw and all.

Of course my partner’s trumpanzee sister took part in the protests of the mascot name change. Because of course she would.

The bar they hangout in still proudly displays all the old offensive memorabilia. Because of course they do…

scarletlib

(3,418 posts)
3. He may have seen a sign like that. But it would have been applicable only to that particular area .
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:48 AM
Jul 2022

Nashville was a segregated town, not a Sundown town. There was/is a sizable black population in Nashville. I grew up there too.

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