An intriguing new detail on Trump's 'fake' electors
Analysis by Aaron Blake
Staff writer
Updated July 26, 2022 at 6:30 p.m. EDT|Published July 26, 2022 at 5:36 p.m. EDT
In recent months, the various investigations into Jan. 6 have increasingly zeroed in on the fake electors for President Donald Trump. In states that Trump lost, the fake electors were people who claimed they were duly chosen something he later tried to leverage to get Vice President Mike Pence to help overturn the election on that fateful day.
But both when they were designated on Dec. 14, 2020, and since, these fake electors have almost always been described as a contingency plan. Dec. 14 was the elector deadline, and the idea was supposedly that they needed to be in place just in case the election results were changed before Jan. 6. Perhaps Trump and Co. later misuse[d] the fake electors to try to overturn the election regardless, as Georgias fake electors suggested last week in court, but the fake electors themselves shouldnt be held responsible for that if they had no knowledge of that plan.
New evidence, though, suggests that at least some involved might have understood the fake-elector plan differently from very early in the process.
A New York Times report details a batch of new emails related to the fake-elector plot. Figuring prominently is a Phoenix-based lawyer who worked with the Trump campaign, Jack Wilenchik. Wilenchik corresponded with Trump campaign adviser Boris Epshteyn and others on Dec. 8, according to the Times report. In one email, he outright refers to the electors as fake electors, before later suggesting that a more palatable phrase would be alternate electors.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/26/trump-fake-electors-arizona/
gab13by13
(21,414 posts)Pa. and one other state had an out on the fake elector document, all of the other fake electors from the other states need to be prosecuted or flipped. You don't send the fake elector documents to the National Archives if it was just a "what if" alternative.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)That's public admission of a crime. They're not that stupid.
Joinfortmill
(14,472 posts)elias7
(4,027 posts)FakeNoose
(32,786 posts)However he put his son-in-law in charge of the grifting. He handled the criming himself.
Lock them up. All of them!
Rocknation
(44,578 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:45 AM - Edit history (1)
to realize that there was at least a chance that he couldn't win the popular vote on his own merits...
rocktivity
NJCher
(35,751 posts)He understood that reality. If he ever goes for an insanity defense, this would be pertinent.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)When you think about who electoral college electors actually are, you'll find it hard to believe they didn't know. These aren't yokel magats and neophytes. Electors are party insiders from the state party apparatus. They fully understand how things actually work, thus knew exactly what they were about with the fake elector deal. They are at the least accomplices to a crime.
gab13by13
(21,414 posts)to sign the fake document.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)MadLinguist
(790 posts)Alternate Facts. Bowling Green Massacre of ancient scandal history
LessAspin
(1,156 posts)lees1975
(3,886 posts)every single person who let their name be placed on those fake documents is unfathomable.
These people should all be charged with sedition and jailed until tried and convicted.