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elleng

(130,964 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:39 PM Aug 2022

Republicans Are America's Problem

by Charles Blow, for NYT, on Lawrence Show now.

Tuesday’s primary in Wyoming delivered Liz Cheney a resounding defeat. She is one of the few Republicans in Congress willing to resist Donald Trump’s election lies, and Republican voters punished her for it.

First, let me say, I have no intention of contributing to the hagiography of Liz Cheney. She is a rock-ribbed Republican who supported Trump’s legislative positions 93 percent of the time. It is on the insurrection and election lies where she diverged.

In a way, she is the Elvis of politics: She took something — in this case a position — that others had held all along and made it cross over. She mainstreamed a political principle that many liberals had held all along.

Excuse me if I temper my enthusiasm for a person who presents herself as a great champion of democracy but votes against the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

Situational morality is better than none, I suppose, but I see it for what it is, and I am minimally moved.

However, her loss does crystallize something for us that many had already known: that the bar to clear in the modern Republican Party isn’t being sufficiently conservative but rather being sufficiently obedient to Donald Trump and his quest to deny and destroy democracy.

We must stop thinking it hyperbolic to say that the Republican Party itself is now a threat to our democracy. I understand the queasiness about labeling many of our fellow Americans in that way. I understand that it sounds extreme and overreaching.>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/17/opinion/republicans-cheney-trump-democracy.html

He says 'Conservatism' has always been against democracy.

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Republicans Are America's Problem (Original Post) elleng Aug 2022 OP
Paywall elleng dweller Aug 2022 #1
:thumbsup: elleng Aug 2022 #2
👍👍 dweller Aug 2022 #3
Pro Tip Gore1FL Aug 2022 #14
Archive.ph page: usonian Aug 2022 #4
+1 dalton99a Aug 2022 #6
I've been thinking this since Reagan/Bush concocted a deal with the Ayotoollah to hold US citizens OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #5
then they killed samantha smith and alan berg and gave 600 radio stations to limbaugh, who certainot Aug 2022 #11
That's a lot to digest right there in your post. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #15
SS was the anti reagan when they were trying to sell billions in a 'star wars' satellite system certainot Aug 2022 #16
Charles Blow ---Said IT! Bread and Circuses Aug 2022 #7
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2022 #8
Absolutely! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #9
I think so too. Solly Mack Aug 2022 #10
conservatism is just a nice way to say authoritarianism...? certainot Aug 2022 #17
The Birchers stole "conservative" Mopar151 Aug 2022 #18
The Birchers stole "conservative" Mopar151 Aug 2022 #19
Here's the video of Charles Blow on with Lawrence O'Donnell - coming up next on the repeat: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #12
They love democracy as long as white male Christians dominate everything. mwb970 Aug 2022 #13
The modern "Republicans" really should not be called "Republicans." raging moderate Sep 2022 #20

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
14. Pro Tip
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:26 AM
Aug 2022

Type archive.today in your browser.

Copy and paste the DU link to the article in the top box and press the button next to it.

One of two things will happen. 1> it will take you directly to a pay-wall free version of the article. 2> It will give you an estimate of when said article will be available as a pay-wall free version of the article.

(I agree, posting a few paragraphs is infinitely easier!)

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
5. I've been thinking this since Reagan/Bush concocted a deal with the Ayotoollah to hold US citizens
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:20 PM
Aug 2022

as hostages until they got elected. Then they they used Central/So. America as a laboratory to use weaponized propaganda/lies, commit chaos and use police intimidation to steal elections.

It's our turn now. Frank Church tried to explain it to us in the late 70's.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. then they killed samantha smith and alan berg and gave 600 radio stations to limbaugh, who
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:22 AM
Aug 2022

enabled more death and destruction than hitler and stalin, by delaying global warming action alone. not to mention "smoking doesn't cause cancer", "covid is a hoax", corporations are people, etc....

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
16. SS was the anti reagan when they were trying to sell billions in a 'star wars' satellite system
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:42 AM
Aug 2022

strange plane crash at a time when the real original 'deep state' was going strong.

Bread and Circuses

(133 posts)
7. Charles Blow ---Said IT!
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 12:10 AM
Aug 2022

I saw him with Lawrence tonight.

He's had it with the Republican Voters. And I am too. They do want destroy our country and us. They don't want equality, democracy or fairness. They want a theocracy ruled with vengeance.

Stop making excuses for them. This and that...they lost their jobs, they don't have a degree, etc.

I'm calling B.S. They are mean SOBs and they want to stomp over anyone who is not them .

There is no doubt in my mind that there will be violent terrorist attacks at every turn. Elections , court trials, etc. They have money(from Russia) . They have unfiltered media. They have high powered munitions. They will kill us....they have the means.....

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
17. conservatism is just a nice way to say authoritarianism...?
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:50 AM
Aug 2022

but some real conservatism is also just caution, and that can save lives.......

this is a party that denies global warming - that is not 'conservative' in any way. that's just stupid, and being a tool.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
19. The Birchers stole "conservative"
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 02:47 AM
Aug 2022

And gene spliced Fear of the Unfamiliar With Reverend Sonny Ca$h's Jeebus Revival & the Chamber of Commerce marching band.

Now its an "ism", soon to have its own diagnostic code.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
12. Here's the video of Charles Blow on with Lawrence O'Donnell - coming up next on the repeat:
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:25 AM
Aug 2022
Charles Blow: 'Republicans Are America's Problem' - The Last Word - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017759861

New York Times columnist Charles Blow joins MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss his argument that Donald Trump represents an inflection point for the GOP allowing, Blow says, Republicans to "run headlong" into "their bigotries, intolerances and oppression." - Aired on 08/18/2022.


mwb970

(11,360 posts)
13. They love democracy as long as white male Christians dominate everything.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:26 AM
Aug 2022

When groups they fear and hate (namely, everyone else) develop a power base they feel threatened. These are extraordinarily weak-minded people, most of them religious.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
20. The modern "Republicans" really should not be called "Republicans."
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:07 PM
Sep 2022

What they want is not a Republic. What they want is a medieval aristocracy with loyal servants below them and a fierce, all-powerful emperor above them.

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