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douglas9

(4,359 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:26 PM Aug 2022

Mike Pence Owes the Country an Explanation

On January 6, 2021, from a parking garage under the Capitol Visitor Center, then–Vice President Mike Pence ordered the military to defend the Capitol against a violent insurrection. According to a taped deposition of General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Pence “issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders” to him and Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller: “Get the military down here. Get the Guard here. Put down this situation.”

This is a problem—one that has been overshadowed by the larger events of January 6. The constitutional authority to call out the military to defend the Capitol is vested in the president of the United States, not in the vice president. Why did Pence seize constitutional authority that wasn’t his? The country needs answers to this question, and it needs them from Pence, not from his chief of staff or his counsel

In ordinary circumstances, Pence’s actions would be unconstitutional. Indeed, a vice president who usurped the president’s constitutional authority, and the Cabinet and military officers who followed his orders, could be committing an impeachable offense. But these were no ordinary circumstances: With Pence huddled in a secure location protected by his security detail, his actions were almost certainly justified.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/mike-pence-january-6-committee-military/671163/?utm_source=feed

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Mike Pence Owes the Country an Explanation (Original Post) douglas9 Aug 2022 OP
He'll make it clear as mud. Believe me! czarjak Aug 2022 #1
He had to do it Bayard Aug 2022 #2
Mike Pence was so resolute in doing the right thing agingdem Aug 2022 #3
Yes, he does.....nt Jade Fox Aug 2022 #4
People praise him... Mike Nelson Aug 2022 #5
Christopher Miller was in the chain of command. Gore1FL Aug 2022 #6
This is a man who abandoned his integrity, if he ever had any in the first place lees1975 Aug 2022 #7
He failed the country purr-rat beauty Aug 2022 #8

agingdem

(7,863 posts)
3. Mike Pence was so resolute in doing the right thing
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:49 PM
Aug 2022

he called Dan Quayle..does he forever incur Trump's wrath or obey the Constitution?...and it was Dan Quayle telling him no fucking way could he decertify a fair election..

unless Pence grows a spine and flips on Trump and his band of enabling lunatics, his testimony is worthless...

Mike Nelson

(9,971 posts)
5. People praise him...
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:04 PM
Aug 2022

... for calling Dan Quayle and pondering what right he had to stop the election and give it to Trump. I would like to know why he had to call anyone? I would expect a VP to know the duties. I would NOT have had to ask Dan Quayle for any confirmation. That Pence called means he is a problem.

Gore1FL

(21,155 posts)
6. Christopher Miller was in the chain of command.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:06 PM
Aug 2022

He could issue orders on the advice of the Vice President.

lees1975

(3,888 posts)
7. This is a man who abandoned his integrity, if he ever had any in the first place
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 11:47 PM
Aug 2022

the moment he decided to crawl on to the GOP ticket with the orange headed buffoon. He wasn't the brightest bulb in the lamp anyway, and the fact that he either couldn't see what a dishonest, corrupt, insane mental case Trump was from the record he'd made in business and everywhere else, or he decided that his political ambitions were more important than his integrity.

He has no chance of ever being elected to anything again. Who cares? Stop talking about him.

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