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Obama Privately Warned Reporters Trump Would Destroy America In 8 Years In Last Days In Office
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/09/barack-obama-donald-trump-eight-yearsObama Privately Warned Reporters Trump Would Destroy America In 8 Years In Last Days In Office
Though for some reason he thought four years would be okay.
BY BESS LEVIN
SEPTEMBER 30, 2022
As weve previously noted around these parts, the biggest criticism of Barack Obama between the years of 2016 and 2020 related to his decision not to voice the opinions you know he absolutely had about Donald Trump. Indeed, it was not even until the end of 2018 that the 44th president uttered his successors name in public, despite the fact that most of the world was regularly referring to him with terms like certified moron, an idiot surrounded by clowns, Adolf Twitler, and, we assume, a malignant tumor on the colon of society.
While Obama did choose to start talking toward the end of 2020warning that August that Trump would tear our democracy down if given the chancethe remarks that he reportedly made in private were the ones people probably would have appreciated hearing the most, wherein he described the 45th president as a madman, a racist, sexist pig, a corrupt motherfucker, and a fucking lunatic. And apparently, he had other things to say about the guy too.
Bloomberg News reports that in his final days as president, Obama warned reporters, in an off-the-record conversation, that while America would be okay from four years of Trump, eight years would be a problem. I would be concerned about a sustained period in which some of these norms have broken down and started to corrode. (The remarks were revealed in a transcript that was released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2017 by reporter Jason Leopold.) Trump has, of course, been threatening to make another bid for office for some time now, which, if successful, would give him those eight years Obama warned against. While that would obviously be extremely bad for humanity, one might argue that the country is already quite worse for wear after just the first four, and that Obama was a little too optimistic about how Trumps first term would shake out.
Elsewhere in the conversation, Obama told reporters that he didnt believe Trump was keen on starting any wars, though he would probably be into bombing the heck out of terrorists. (In early January 2020, the Trump administration assassinated Iranian military leader Qasem Soleimani; Trump would later complain that he didnt get enough credit for this, and that he should have because Soleimani was a much bigger terrorist than Osama bin Laden, whose 9/11 attacks he bizarrely attempted to downplay.) I think his basic viewhis formative view of foreign policy is shaped by his interactions with Malaysian developers and Saudi princes, and I think his view is, Im going to go around the world making deals and maybe suing people, Obama said during the chat. But its not, let me launch big wars that tie me up. And thats not what his base is looking [for] from him anyway. According to Bloomberg, Obama said his biggest fear about his successor was the politicization of the nations top law enforcement agency. I would be like white on rice on the Justice Department, Obama told reporters. Id be paying a lot of attention to that. And if there is even a hint of politically motivated investigations, prosecutions, et cetera, I think you guys have to really be on top of that. Trump, of course, spent much of his time in office demanding the DOJ investigate his political rivals, including Obama, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton. As Bloomberg notes, Geoffrey Berman, the former US attorney for the Southern District of New York, recently accused Trumps Justice Department of meddling in prosecutions and pressuring his office to launch politically motivated probes into Trumps adversaries.
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Though for some reason he thought four years would be okay.
BY BESS LEVIN
SEPTEMBER 30, 2022
As weve previously noted around these parts, the biggest criticism of Barack Obama between the years of 2016 and 2020 related to his decision not to voice the opinions you know he absolutely had about Donald Trump. Indeed, it was not even until the end of 2018 that the 44th president uttered his successors name in public, despite the fact that most of the world was regularly referring to him with terms like certified moron, an idiot surrounded by clowns, Adolf Twitler, and, we assume, a malignant tumor on the colon of society.
While Obama did choose to start talking toward the end of 2020warning that August that Trump would tear our democracy down if given the chancethe remarks that he reportedly made in private were the ones people probably would have appreciated hearing the most, wherein he described the 45th president as a madman, a racist, sexist pig, a corrupt motherfucker, and a fucking lunatic. And apparently, he had other things to say about the guy too.
Bloomberg News reports that in his final days as president, Obama warned reporters, in an off-the-record conversation, that while America would be okay from four years of Trump, eight years would be a problem. I would be concerned about a sustained period in which some of these norms have broken down and started to corrode. (The remarks were revealed in a transcript that was released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2017 by reporter Jason Leopold.) Trump has, of course, been threatening to make another bid for office for some time now, which, if successful, would give him those eight years Obama warned against. While that would obviously be extremely bad for humanity, one might argue that the country is already quite worse for wear after just the first four, and that Obama was a little too optimistic about how Trumps first term would shake out.
Elsewhere in the conversation, Obama told reporters that he didnt believe Trump was keen on starting any wars, though he would probably be into bombing the heck out of terrorists. (In early January 2020, the Trump administration assassinated Iranian military leader Qasem Soleimani; Trump would later complain that he didnt get enough credit for this, and that he should have because Soleimani was a much bigger terrorist than Osama bin Laden, whose 9/11 attacks he bizarrely attempted to downplay.) I think his basic viewhis formative view of foreign policy is shaped by his interactions with Malaysian developers and Saudi princes, and I think his view is, Im going to go around the world making deals and maybe suing people, Obama said during the chat. But its not, let me launch big wars that tie me up. And thats not what his base is looking [for] from him anyway. According to Bloomberg, Obama said his biggest fear about his successor was the politicization of the nations top law enforcement agency. I would be like white on rice on the Justice Department, Obama told reporters. Id be paying a lot of attention to that. And if there is even a hint of politically motivated investigations, prosecutions, et cetera, I think you guys have to really be on top of that. Trump, of course, spent much of his time in office demanding the DOJ investigate his political rivals, including Obama, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton. As Bloomberg notes, Geoffrey Berman, the former US attorney for the Southern District of New York, recently accused Trumps Justice Department of meddling in prosecutions and pressuring his office to launch politically motivated probes into Trumps adversaries.
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Obama Privately Warned Reporters Trump Would Destroy America In 8 Years In Last Days In Office (Original Post)
sl8
Oct 2022
OP
We learned about many of those abuses after tfg was out of office, so maybe those reporters ...
eppur_se_muova
Oct 2022
#3
BumRushDaShow
(129,525 posts)1. Because Barack Obama was a black man
he could never express his true thoughts "publicly", let alone in any official capacity as an elected official. It was bad enough whenever he was caught in any "open mic" / "off the record" comments, then he was roundly excoriated and his remarks were dismissed as either "proof" he was a "radical "Musliin (sic) Socialist Fascist Commie Marxist Nazi" or the remark was a "gaffe". That's the bottom line.
tanyev
(42,620 posts)2. And how many of those reporters left thinking,
"Woohoo! The next 4-8 years are going to be really exciting for my career!"
eppur_se_muova
(36,295 posts)3. We learned about many of those abuses after tfg was out of office, so maybe those reporters ...
... could've followed that advice a little more vigorously.