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irisblue

(32,996 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:05 AM Oct 2022

Loretta Lynn campaigned for both Bushs' & supported Trump

source-https://www.npr.org/2022/10/08/1127230406/loretta-lynn-country-music-politics-republicans

snip-"She once told an interviewer she had gone with Trump in part because her audiences would have booed her if she had endorsed Hillary Clinton."


snip-"Trump was able to tap the feisty, often defensive spirit that has long informed the Appalachian region (broadly defined) that spawned much of what Americans came to call "country western." It is akin to the fiercely defiant spirit that animates J.D. Vance's memoir Hillbilly Elegy and that attracted Trump's endorsement of Vance's Senate candidacy in Ohio."

snip-"... when she appeared on stage in 1988 with the Republican nominee for president, George H.W. Bush... Lynn told the crowd and the cameras that looking at Bush was "looking at country." And in case there was any doubt, she leaned into the microphone and proclaimed: "I know George Bush, and he is country."


More there.


I did not realize much of this history.

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Loretta Lynn campaigned for both Bushs' & supported Trump (Original Post) irisblue Oct 2022 OP
If LL was worried about a Dixie Chicks reaction if she supported HRC, no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #1
Just because of that... calguy Oct 2022 #2
Loretta Lynn will be remembered for her unique story and for her music Zambero Oct 2022 #3
+1 Xoan Oct 2022 #7
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #11
She was rich and voted R? czarjak Oct 2022 #4
She grew up dirt poor .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #12
Poor Southern Democrats were democrats until The Civil Rights Act. I remember. czarjak Oct 2022 #18
It doesn't surprise me. demosincebirth Oct 2022 #5
"Trump was able to tap the feisty, J_William_Ryan Oct 2022 #6
Yeah, that line jumped out at me too. irisblue Oct 2022 #9
Defensive spirit aka ignorance and fear Fullduplexxx Oct 2022 #10
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #13
How about our own Star Spangled Banner?? Written by a slave owner. Ziggysmom Oct 2022 #8
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #14
Besh wishes for the happy couple irisblue Oct 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Oct 2022 #17
Not true, there is even a book series about a Free Man of Color being a detective in New Orleans Hestia Oct 2022 #21
What a stupid-ass nimrod she was. Aristus Oct 2022 #15
Despite NPR's article, LL will be remembered much more for her music than her politics. ificandream Oct 2022 #19
She opened many doors for women. So I will admire that. And she likely would have been Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #24
Booed for endorsing Hillary???? Grins Oct 2022 #20
Well, that does it for me, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #22
Of course. hurple Oct 2022 #23
What evidence is there that she was a racist? Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #25

no_hypocrisy

(46,133 posts)
1. If LL was worried about a Dixie Chicks reaction if she supported HRC,
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:08 AM
Oct 2022

then she should have said nothing at all and stayed apolitical.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
3. Loretta Lynn will be remembered for her unique story and for her music
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:19 AM
Oct 2022

However, for a number of reasons, when it comes to country female singers worthy of admiration, I'm very partial to Dolly Parton.

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
12. She grew up dirt poor ....
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 11:47 AM
Oct 2022

But once she secured the bag, she forgot about what it was like to be po'


Dolly never did though, and that why I love her



J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
6. "Trump was able to tap the feisty,
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:48 AM
Oct 2022

often defensive spirit that has long informed the Appalachian region.”

Which is white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
8. How about our own Star Spangled Banner?? Written by a slave owner.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 11:02 AM
Oct 2022

Only whites were free in 1814 when written. We were fighting still the War of 1812 where the British promised refuge to any enslaved Black people who escaped their owners, causing fear that there would be a large-scale US slave revolt.

Third verse.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution. No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
14. REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:34 PM
Oct 2022

There will ALWAYS be racism, that's just the way it is.

However, oncce that OLD head dies off and out and the more the world expands ..... things will eventually gt better for us all ..... It'll be a while for sure, but these old, racist types die out ...

Case in point: A friend from West Virginia that I've mentoned on this site who told me years ago that Joe Manchini (changed his name to sound less Italian) was a pile of crooked, greedy, pile of poo in my posts whose white has a 23 year old nephew whose graduating from the University of West Virginia along with his 22 year old fiancee next summer whose BLACK ......

They were going to wait next year post graduation to marry, but they can't wait, so they're getting married this Thanksgiving holiday season His Mom is not jumping for joy, but my friend told me last just week that his 50 cousin says "Well, it's his life, but these last few years are the happiest I've ever seen Eli, and that's all what matters." My friend said that if his Dad was alive, that would be another story though all together H said his nephew told him "Unc, there are more white guys out here like me than you think who would marry someone black, but they are scared of what their parents would think so they stay away from black woman, not me. You know me." I love speaking to my bud and his wife. They're going back to West Virginia to his nephew's wedding. And to top it off the young lady comes from a bit of money/great background. Fancy that, a black woman coming from money (Her parents and their family have been educators for 100 years plus, and very successful). Eli's lucky that a teacher saw the potential in him when he was a kid who saw his gift with math/numbers especially , and saw how intelligent he was and from there, things took off. Eli's going to be an educator himself--a math teacher, en route to be a Math Professor. His fiancee is also en route to being an educator and Professor of Black studies herself.

God, I wish my buddy's nephew/fiancee the best in luck in life, love, success & health.

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Hestia

(3,818 posts)
21. Not true, there is even a book series about a Free Man of Color being a detective in New Orleans
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:37 PM
Oct 2022

Charles II, King of Spain, because he detested France & the King of France, helped to establish a town in Fla for free people of color in 1733.

On 7 November 1693, a Royal Decree provided sanctuary in Spanish Florida for escaped slaves from the nearby colony of South Carolina.[59] Despite its relative poverty, Spanish Florida provided protection from storms in the Gulf of Mexico for Spanish merchant shipping; the decree was intended to bolster its population, while undermining the neighbouring colony, which claimed the Spanish capital of St. Augustine.[60] Formalised in 1733 by Philip, it led to the founding in 1738 of Santa Teresa de Mose, the first legally sanctioned free black town in the present-day United States.[61]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Mose_Historic_State_Park

Aristus

(66,409 posts)
15. What a stupid-ass nimrod she was.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:55 PM
Oct 2022

A con man born to a wealthy family in Queens, NYC, and a ne'er-do-well New England preppy from Connecticut speaking in a clownish Texas twang are 'country'? And embody the spirit of Appalachia?



She can do all the head-fakes in the direction of feminism she wants, but the slag-heap siren was just another empty-headed hillbilly.

ificandream

(9,377 posts)
19. Despite NPR's article, LL will be remembered much more for her music than her politics.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:53 PM
Oct 2022

It sounds like from reading her quotes that she could have supported Hillary but was too timid to do so. I'll think that.

Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
24. She opened many doors for women. So I will admire that. And she likely would have been
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 09:30 PM
Oct 2022

booed had she endorsed Hillary Clinton. Look at what happened with the Dixie Chicks...

Grins

(7,218 posts)
20. Booed for endorsing Hillary????
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:09 PM
Oct 2022

1.
You’re a singer. You don’t have to endorse anyone!

2.
In the voting booth, you can vote any way you want.

3.
You did that for money; i.e. - you’re no Dixie Chick!

Jesus…

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,418 posts)
22. Well, that does it for me,
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 10:52 PM
Oct 2022

I'll never again attend any of her concerts.

What's the point of this?
She's dead with no chance of coming back.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
23. Of course.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

She was from rural KY, born in the early part of the 20th century. If you expected any different, then you expected wrong.

She was a strong voice for women's rights, but that does not mean she wasn't also a racist... which she was.

People can be complex. Their thoughts and actions can be confusing and contradictory. She can be a hero in one column and a villain in another.

That's just how the *real* world works.

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