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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 02:59 PM Jul 2012

What Is Causing The Climate To Unravel?

Answer: One trillion tons of carbon pollution.

40,000 heat records have already been broken this year across the United States, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Here in Fredericksburg, Virginia, the signs of an unbalanced climate system have been felt in recent years not just in heatwaves, but increasingly in the form of unusually severe wind storms. This past weekend’s storm brought 80 mph wind gusts that snapped three trees in our backyard like pretzels, even though they were each a foot thick. Once again, my insurance company is teaching me new weather terminolgy to explain the latest climate disasters. A few years ago, the term was “micro-bursts” (not quite tornadoes, but similar impact). Now it is “derecho” (not quite hurricanes, but similar impact).

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/07/07/511194/what-is-causing-the-climate-to-unravel/

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Positive article about climate change....

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What Is Causing The Climate To Unravel? (Original Post) MindMover Jul 2012 OP
Along with an immeasurable amount of ignorance and stupidity n/t deutsey Jul 2012 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2012 #2
"What Is Causing The Climate To Unravel?" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #3
Entropy? bluedigger Jul 2012 #4
Heat is random molecular motion, which is the highest-entropy form of energy mindwalker_i Jul 2012 #7
So I was right! bluedigger Jul 2012 #8
I didn't say it directly but yes, you're right mindwalker_i Jul 2012 #10
K & R! Wind Dancer Jul 2012 #5
Is there any other country on this planet where half it's people... chknltl Jul 2012 #6
good article - hard not to be pessimistic.. Locrian Jul 2012 #9
we have weather modification techniquest that can be used to help prevent weather disasters Ghost of Huey Long Jul 2012 #11
Plus they could always bring out the MOON BOMB. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #12

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
7. Heat is random molecular motion, which is the highest-entropy form of energy
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jul 2012

So by trapping heat in with greenhouse gasses, the Earth is, in effect, trapping entropy. The increase in entropy is causing the climate to "unravel." In my opinion, it's not so much unraveling as changing into something not particularly hospitable to us. There will always be "a climate," just it might suck as far as we are concerned.

As for Republicans being the cause, they are a big part of it. Republicans gave up any form of governance a while ago, and all they care about now is how to get reelected. So blocking bills that would help the climate but hurt the people who support them will be blocked. It's like bills that will help regular people, but hurt Republicans' chances of being reelected will be blocked. When people are ready to realize this, we can stop electing these assholes and actually fix the problems. Might be a while.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
10. I didn't say it directly but yes, you're right
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jul 2012

However, entropy isn't the root cause of the problem, REPUBLICANS are the root cause of the problem. We should be used to this

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
6. Is there any other country on this planet where half it's people...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jul 2012

...still actively deny global warming? Worse, the greatest idiots on earth still say without hesitation that the U.S. is the greatest nation on earth.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
9. good article - hard not to be pessimistic..
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jul 2012

We need an all out "Manhattan Project" + "Moon Project" + "WWII" type campaign RIGHT F**KING NOW.

And we're still trying to convince morons that there's a problem.

 

Ghost of Huey Long

(322 posts)
11. we have weather modification techniquest that can be used to help prevent weather disasters
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jul 2012

They have been perfecting this technology to the point there are several major weather modification corporations.

If these weather modification corporations are not being used to prevent disasters, what are they doing?


1977 UN Environmental Modification Convention

Weather modification, particularly hostile weather warfare, was addressed by the "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 31/72, TIAS 9614 Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques" was adopted. The Convention was: Signed in Geneva May 18, 1977; Entered into force October 5, 1978; Ratification by U.S. President December 13, 1979; U.S. ratification deposited at New York January 17, 1980.
US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration keeps records of weather modification projects on behalf of the Secretary of Commerce, under authority of Public Law 92-205, 15 USC § 330B, enacted in 1971.
Proposed US Legislation

2005 U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995 U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995 were two bills proposed in 2005 that would have expanded experimental weather modification, to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and implemented a national weather modification policy. Neither were made into law. Former Texas State Senator John N. Leedom was the key lobbyist on behalf of the weather modification bills.

2007 U.S. Senate Bill 1807 & U.S. House Bill 3445 Senate Bill 1807 and House Bill 3445, identical bills introduced July 17, 2007, proposed to establish a Weather Mitigation Advisory and Research Board to fund weather modification research

For the 2008 Olympics, China had 30 airplanes, 4,000 rocket launchers, and 7,000 anti-aircraft guns to stop rain. Each system would shoot various chemicals into any threatening clouds to shrink rain drops before they reach the stadium



Could this technology be used to prevent floods like what just happened in Russia and England? (could it be used by disaster capitalists to start floods?)

Can this technology be used to prevent hurricanes (or cause them?)

Why aren't they using this technology all over the US to bring relief from sweltering heat? In Colorado, why no seed some clouds to help reduce the spread of the fires etc?
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