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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:45 PM Mar 2023

Recess Is Good For Kids. Why Don't More States Require It?

Several years ago, a team of sociologists flew from California to an East Coast school to observe the kindergarteners’ recess for their research. The team waited on the playground, but the children never showed up. When they later asked the principal why, he told them that the lunch staff had held the students back as punishment for misbehavior.

“That just tells you something about the culture of how easy it is to dispense of this really important time for kids at a whim,” said Rebecca London, a sociologist who was on the research team and now teaches at the University of California at Santa Cruz. “There’s no evidence whatsoever that withholding recess elicits any kind of behavior that anybody wants. It’s not an evidence-based practice. There’s no research [supporting] it at all.”

What research (including London’s) has shown is that recess is extremely important to childhood development and learning. Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Academy of Pediatrics recommend that kids have access to it. Specialists think the opportunity to play with peers undirected by an adult — the kind of play children get at recess — is so critical to development that children should not do without it during the school day.

Yet only at least 10 states require schools to provide daily recess. This year, Washington and California are considering bills that would, if passed, make it mandatory for schools to provide recess. London and other researchers want legislatures and educators to know that recess is an important part of the school day, not a break from it.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/recess-is-good-for-kids-why-dont-more-states-require-it/

I grow up in Washington and we had recess in grades 1 - 6.

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Recess Is Good For Kids. Why Don't More States Require It? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 OP
We always had recess. I hated it. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #1
We had it. snot Mar 2023 #2
So now you can't take recess away for bad behavior? jimfields33 Mar 2023 #3
According to the article sounds like this isn't for individuals Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #8
K and R. Mosby Mar 2023 #4
We had recess in the morning & lunch, grades K-6. CrispyQ Mar 2023 #5
Sounds like Rebl2 Mar 2023 #7
Yes. CrispyQ Mar 2023 #11
Same with me... slightlv Mar 2023 #9
I responded pretty much the same, above, before reading your post. CrispyQ Mar 2023 #12
Well I'll Rebl2 Mar 2023 #6
Well, because of lawsuits. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2023 #10
I loved recess IbogaProject Mar 2023 #13
As a K-6th grade teacher BigmanPigman Mar 2023 #14
High-stakes testing is a huge driver in the push to eliminate recess jmowreader Mar 2023 #15

snot

(10,502 posts)
2. We had it.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:04 PM
Mar 2023

Kids sometimes got up to bad things, but overall, I think it was good. I'd expect it could be helpful to let them blow off some steam/fidgets, if nothing else – unless they've all been transformed into phone-addicted lumps.

jimfields33

(15,693 posts)
3. So now you can't take recess away for bad behavior?
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:10 PM
Mar 2023

Is there nothing you can do to stop children who are disruptive, disrespectful or worse. I definitely believe punishment was too harsh up until the 90’s. But the pendulum has swung way too far to the point where there is virtually no punishment at all. What a dilemma for teachers and schools.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. According to the article sounds like this isn't for individuals
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:29 PM
Mar 2023

but entire classes/grades. There's apparently entire STATES ... with no recess for anyone.

No way that's fair. Elementary school shouldn't be like the military or a football team where everyone on 'the team' pays a penalty (laps, pushups, etc) for a few slackers.

That's BS with elementary school kids.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
5. We had recess in the morning & lunch, grades K-6.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:20 PM
Mar 2023

Our playground equipment was on concrete & our ball diamond was dirt. Somehow we survived.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
11. Yes.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:35 AM
Mar 2023

We had PE, too, & the Presidential Fitness test every year. When the weather was nice PE was held outside.

Kids build up energy & have to move. Cancelling recess is more of a punishment to the teachers who now have all that pent up energy to deal with. JFC, who makes these decisions? And is it just me or does it seem there are a whole lot more administrators/office staff than there used to be. ???

slightlv

(2,769 posts)
9. Same with me...
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:35 PM
Mar 2023

and even as a loner and outcast, I got a lot out of recess... even if it was just closeting myself under a tree with a book.

Edited to add: From a purely psychological viewpoint, I can't see how doing away with recess is good for anyone. Kids... especially elementary school age kids... are bodies in motion -all the time.- Recess, I always thought as a kid, was as much for us to work off some of that excess energy so we could try to sit still for another 3-4 hours. To ask a young kid to do otherwise is pure torture.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
12. I responded pretty much the same, above, before reading your post.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:44 AM
Mar 2023

Those poor teachers!

Like you, I was a reader & I could sit still for hours, but my cousin would have driven everyone crazy if he hadn't been able to release all his energy every few hours. He was the kid who was the first out of the classroom, down the hall, & outside.

Rebl2

(13,462 posts)
6. Well I'll
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:23 PM
Mar 2023

be. I am in a state where it’s required. There is a grade school right up the street from me and I see the kids at recess as long as the weather is okay.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
10. Well, because of lawsuits.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 08:24 AM
Mar 2023

Schools were getting sued because little Jimmy would fall and bruise his arm (like any kid does when they are small), and sleazy lawyers knew that the schools had (key word here... 'had') lots of money and were pretty much not equipped to handle a lawyer blitz on them. So, they settle. And they settle. And they finally stopped allowing it altogether because it was just not worth the hassle and loss of money. It is yet another example of the few ruling this country by forcing everyone to be like they want. It is the opposite of a free society. Which is that they want.

IbogaProject

(2,787 posts)
13. I loved recess
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 04:40 PM
Mar 2023

It was so fun to run or play a pickup game of kickball or just talk with a group of peers. We did it every day 1-6th grade. I can't recall if we had extra outside time after we ate in Middle and High School, it wasn't recess either way.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
14. As a K-6th grade teacher
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:36 PM
Mar 2023

I KNOW recess is necessary. Little kids need a break physically and mentally. Just compare classes that do not have recess and you will see a clear difference in test scores, nutrition, stamina, etc. Most kids eat a snack at recess and that keeps them going until lunch. Also, teachers know there is a revolving door with kids needing to use the bathroom and time is wasted. When it rained, you stayed inside and played games for 15 minutes. Kids do not get enough exercise so they should go out and play at recess. Older kids don't like recess's organized games so they get to supervise the younger students' games and solve arguments. They also volunteer to grade homework. My students were only allowed to eat healthy snacks and they actually liked them better! Most adults don't understand any of this but ask an experienced elementary teacher and they can fill you in. I even stopped the revolving door for the bathroom by having a "bathroom break" between the start of school and recess. It worked out well and I was able to teach without being constantly interrupted. The kids had to run three laps around the playground, use the bathroom and get a drink of water.

If you think kids don't need a break just take a look at a room filled with adults who can't talk or walk around for two hours straight. Adults CAN NOT do it so how can they expect kids who are developing to be able to do it.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
15. High-stakes testing is a huge driver in the push to eliminate recess
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:47 AM
Mar 2023

When you know you're going to lose your funding if your kids don't do well enough on some stupid test, you're going to look for ways to cram more instructional time into the day. AND...recess looks like an easy thing to get rid of.

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