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limbicnuminousity

(1,402 posts)
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 12:46 PM Feb 26

Alabama IVF Ruling: When The Law Has A Personal Problem

https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/02/26/alabama-ivf-ruling-when-the-law-has-a-personal-problem/

Riddle: When is a frozen embryo actually a can of worms?

Answer: When the Alabama Supreme Court issues its ruling in LePage v. Mobile Infirmary Clinic, Inc., allowing the parents of several such embryos, created through in-vitro fertilization, to proceed with a wrongful death lawsuit after those embryos were accidentally destroyed.

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What — who — is a “person” or “child” deserving of particular rights and protections?

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Alabama IVF Ruling: When The Law Has A Personal Problem (Original Post) limbicnuminousity Feb 26 OP
Legalizing or criminalizing creates winners and losers bucolic_frolic Feb 26 #1
Author of the article from a Libertarian institute LearnedHand Feb 28 #2
Love the stuff you post, limbic LearnedHand Feb 28 #3
Ty! limbicnuminousity Feb 28 #4
SO important! LearnedHand Feb 29 #5

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
1. Legalizing or criminalizing creates winners and losers
Mon Feb 26, 2024, 01:20 PM
Feb 26

Could be a corporation, or an industry, or cousin Sally Mae. Yet it becomes the law!

LearnedHand

(3,389 posts)
2. Author of the article from a Libertarian institute
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:00 PM
Feb 28

I like how the article framed the question, but the author takes the stance that the judges were just following the law. I kept waiting for a rebuttal of their decision or decision process or something, but it never came. And it definitely never tackled "who or what is a person." Then I saw his little bio. Oh, right.

Thomas L. Knapp is director and senior news analyst at the William Lloyd Garrison Center for Libertarian Advocacy Journalism (thegarrisoncenter.org). He lives and works in north central Florida.

limbicnuminousity

(1,402 posts)
4. Ty!
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:31 PM
Feb 28

And I agree with your assessment of the piece. The strength is in how the author frames the issue and questions. Framing the context of the discussion properly is important, I think, since the theocrats on the Alabama SC are trying to frame it as a religious issue. It's a human rights issue, or, as the author calls it, a political and legal question. Church and state are not two great tastes that go great together.

peace

LearnedHand

(3,389 posts)
5. SO important!
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 10:36 PM
Feb 29

It infuriates me when Dems respond to Republican atrocities using the Republican framework. And they (Republicans)excel at framing the issues and destroying the Overton Window.

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