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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,374 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:37 PM Sunday

Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship could be decided by the Supreme Court

Donald Trump’s team is crafting an executive order to end birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented immigrants, a monumental move the president-elect’s allies say is a key step in their long-term strategy: getting the issue before the Supreme Court.

The effect of Trump’s order would be to exclude the children of undocumented immigrants and short-term visitors to the U.S. from the right to citizenship by birth that is established under the 14th Amendment. And while there are few details on what exactly he would do and how sweeping the action would be, immigration restrictionists say Trump could do several things, including directing the State Department to refuse to issue passports to children without proof of the parents’ immigration status or the Social Security Administration to withhold Social Security numbers.

He could also direct agencies providing welfare and public benefits to U.S. citizens to deny these benefits to those claiming birthright citizenship, whose parents are in the country illegally. Details of the plan remain unclear, but it would deliver on a promise Trump has made over his entire political career: to restrict birthright citizenship.

Implementation would be no easy feat, but the Trump administration likely wouldn’t get far anyway — at least at first. Any move Trump makes to deny citizenship to children born in the United States to undocumented parents will be immediately challenged by pro-immigration groups and civil rights organizations. And conservative immigration groups are optimistic that the issue could eventually wind up before the nation’s highest court, which they hope will rule in their favor.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-plan-end-birthright-citizenship-160000406.html

He should lose but with today's SCOTUS you can't be sure.

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Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship could be decided by the Supreme Court (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sunday OP
I think SCOTUS would have a hard time overruling a Consitutional Amendment that explicit. Hard to interpret Silent Type Sunday #1
Well they made the constitution unconstitutional with immunity for fuckface Hassin Bin Sober Sunday #2
Not really. Government officials have almost always had immunity for "official acts." And trump really didn't gain Silent Type Sunday #4
Marbury v Madison granted it creeksneakers2 Sunday #9
SCOTUS already invalidated 14A Sec 3. bucolic_frolic Sunday #3
And a well-regulated militia means an unregulated non-militia unblock Sunday #6
No they didnt Fiendish Thingy Sunday #7
But ... Igel Sunday #11
I am a grandson Henry203 Sunday #5
It would take incredibly cruelty creeksneakers2 Sunday #8
See Niemoeller. eppur_se_muova Sunday #10
The Gang of Six is bought and paid for Blue_Tires Sunday #12

Silent Type

(7,305 posts)
1. I think SCOTUS would have a hard time overruling a Consitutional Amendment that explicit. Hard to interpret
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:46 PM
Sunday

the language any different from what it says.

But, you are correct we can't be totally certain.

"With extremely limited exceptions, the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause provides that all children born in the U.S. are citizens. The birthright citizenship rule comes from English common law and dates back centuries." -- ACLU

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,769 posts)
2. Well they made the constitution unconstitutional with immunity for fuckface
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:52 PM
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Who knows what they can do

Silent Type

(7,305 posts)
4. Not really. Government officials have almost always had immunity for "official acts." And trump really didn't gain
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:59 PM
Sunday

much from the immunity rule but delaying his fraud, rape, and other cases that might have imprisoned him before election.

But, sure can't say never.

creeksneakers2

(7,611 posts)
9. Marbury v Madison granted it
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:14 PM
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but excluded times when the law was broken. The Supreme Court ruling was sweeping and contrary to the law. It changed us into a dictatorship.

unblock

(54,234 posts)
6. And a well-regulated militia means an unregulated non-militia
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:03 PM
Sunday

And a woman can be enslaved for the purpose of breeding without violating the 13th amendment ban on slavery.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,768 posts)
7. No they didnt
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:07 PM
Sunday

It was a bipartisan ruling that said states shouldn’t have the power to interpret the constitution for the nation, only federal courts or Congress.

Henry203

(174 posts)
5. I am a grandson
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 03:00 PM
Sunday

Of a birthright citizen who was deported. The original immigrant crisis were the Chinese.

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