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sad sally

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Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:56 PM Aug 2012

Forcible Murder is a Heinous Crime (in Support of Todd Akin)

Published on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - by Caroline Hamilton

I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV. But when I say “forcible murder,” I am talking about “legitimate murder”—the kind of murder in which the victim did not agree to die. And “legitimate murder” should be regarded as the first-degree homicide of an unwilling human being.

I am not talking about the kind of murder where the victim “asks for it.” That kind of murder is not as serious. Victims of this kind of murder are out late, in the wrong part of town, or doing something they shouldn’t, or they live in a black bad neighborhood with lots of gang-bangers running around. So when this kind of victim get murdered, it is no surprise, and probably serves them right for being so immoral, or careless.

But “legitimate murder” is another kind of animal. A “forcible homicide” is when you are in your bedroom, maybe saying your prayers, or seated at your dining room table, maybe saying the blessing, and some dark-skinned stranger bursts in to rob you and kill you. That is just plain wrong. And that kind of behavior deserves the strongest punishment.

“Legitimate murder” is like “legitimate rape,” or what Paul Ryan and I call “forcible rape.” It happens when the victim is minding her own business, at home, not thinking about sex, not being wicked at all, possibly watching Fox News or reading the Bible, and someone bursts in and forces that innocent person to be the victim of a heinous crime. “Legitimate rape” is what could happen to your sister or mother or daughter when she didn’t do anything to deserve it. She wasn't wearing a short skirt or showing her cleavage. She didn’t go to a bar by herself. She wasn’t out late by herself. Instead, she had maybe been shopping at the grocery store in a white safe neighborhood and was bending over in her modest attire to put those grocery bags in the minivan when some pervert saw his opportunity and forced himself on her. We can all agree that this kind of rape is wrong.

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Forcible Murder is a Heinous Crime (in Support of Todd Akin) (Original Post) sad sally Aug 2012 OP
My Disagreement is Basic oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #1

oldsarge54

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1. My Disagreement is Basic
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:32 AM
Aug 2012

The only problem I have with your position is the basic problem, when does person-hood begin? Conception, 1st trimester, 2nd, 3rd? In all cases, is boils down to opinion. Depending on how you read your bible, or how you interpret science, or semi-science like akin belief in body control. It is all down to opinion. Nothing measurable, nothing definite. Do you really want laws that are based on opinion.

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