Oh, but for the wisdom of James Madison and Thomas Jefferson on the separation of church and state.

[lees1975]

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2026/03/oh-but-for-wisdom-of-james-madison-and.html

The United States would not have survived as a nation, had it not been for the wisdom of these two founding fathers when it came to understanding the need for the complete separation of church and state, and for the absolute necessity of making it a constitutional principle directly related to the freedom of conscience and of placing religious practice in a separate category from politics where, even though Christianity would excercise considerable influence, it would not have the power to drag the nation into disaster.

This is one of the reasons why America is a great nation, and does not need to be made great "again."

Christianity, when it was accorded the political power of the state under Constantine, became the cause around which some of the bloodiest and deadly events in human history was centered. Most instruction in world history in the United States is too biased to acknowledge this fact, or teach the truth about it. It is soft-peddaled, passed over, ignored and in many cases, what is taught is an outright lie. It is, in fact, almost impossinle to name a war or a season of war that did not have Christianity as the catalyst behind it.

Jefferson, Madison and the other founding fathers had a front seat from which to observe religious persecution in America, perpetrated by those who belonged to the dominant religious majority on the minority. The Puritans in Massachusetts did not tolerate any divergent beliefs, eliminating their perceived enemies by controlling the magistrates and making doctrinal differences and preaching without the state's permission a crime. As a result, dissenters were driven out of the colony, the most notable being the Baptists who established Rhode Island for their own religious liberty.

The Christian nationalist country envisioned by the Heritage Foundation and conservative Evangelicalism would be as violent and deadly as the Hundred Years War. Their interpretation of the Bible is skewed beyond recognition when it comes to the practice of the values of the Christian gospel. They prefer an Old Testament perspective where a vengeful god orders the murder of his enemies. That's anti-Christian, demonic and evil, but it's the doctrine in which they have wrapped themselves. And even with church-state separation that most Americans do not understand, or of which they are just ignorant, it's hard enough to hold the line. How bad would it be if we didn't have that very clear Constitutional principle they can do nothing about.

[NoMoreRepugs]

1. I've said it before - I suugest we change the Constitution to read 'FREEDOM FROM RELIGION.'

[everyonematters]

2. They want to conform our society tho their interpretation of Christianity.

They are not trying to do it thru persuasion or conversion. They are trying to do it through a coalition with the greedy. Charlie Kirk wasn't trying to persuade anyone. He was rallying the troops.

[lastlib]

3. IOW, they want us down on our knees....

...in the church of THEIR choice!

The Wall---it's there FOR A REASON!

[everyonematters]

7. They want to outlaw all abortions, contraception, gay marriage, sex before marriage.

Good luck enforcing the last one.

[lees1975]

8. One quick look at Charlie Kirk and what he preached and it's easy to see he didn't understand the Christian gospel.

But he understood how easy it was to manipulate gullible conservative Christians.

[Hey Joe]

4. Heritage Foundation would like to see a return

of the Inquisition. Everyone who does not become a Christian Nationalist would become a second class citizen. Or be killed ?
Anyone who ever read about the Inquisition knows the horrific atrocities committed by Christians on Jews, Muslims and nonbelievers.
Heritage Foundation is a good example of religious evil.

[lastlib]

5. One of my favorite quotes on the subject:

"It would be almost unbelievable, if history did not record the tragic fact, that men have gone to war and cut each other's throats because they could not agree as to what was to become of them after their throats were cut." --Walter Parker Stacy

[surfered]

6. They were well aware of the history of the Reformation in the UK.

Henry VIII broke from the Catholic Church and Catholics were persecuted. He died and was replaced by Queen Anne, a Catholic. Protestants were then persecuted. She died and was replaced by Queen Elizabeth, a Protestant, and Catholics were persecuted.

As they lived closer to that history, it was easier for them to understand why governments should not be allowed to dictate religion.