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geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:42 AM Oct 2012

Another debater the American Press absolutely would have fell in love with

This could also be entitled why lies matter?

After listening to someone say what they admired about Romney's debate performance because we finally have a leader with balls. I thought who else had balls. I thought of someone who was hyper aggressive on his opponents, who wouldn't listen to anyone who told him no and who almost lied every time he spoke. I'm beginning to think I've found the American media's version of presidential. The American media would know that he wasn't telling the truth with every word he spoke, they'd timidly report it, while salivating over his leadership qualities. That should be about a month or two before he'd put a number of them in camps.

To see who our mysterious candidate is and with quotes from the cnadidate:

http://laborspains.blogspot.com/2012/10/another-debater-american-press.html

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Another debater the American Press absolutely would have fell in love with (Original Post) geefloyd46 Oct 2012 OP
Unfortunately at this point in time, the arts of debate, rhetoric, and oration no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #1
When lies are considered an asset because they are well delivered. geefloyd46 Oct 2012 #2
Debates SamKnause Oct 2012 #3
Devastating and very true treestar Oct 2012 #4
"Would have fell" DavidDvorkin Oct 2012 #5
From that link: treestar Oct 2012 #6

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
1. Unfortunately at this point in time, the arts of debate, rhetoric, and oration
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:08 AM
Oct 2012

are sorely lacking. In the Nineteenth Century, you had Abraham Lincoln, Stephen Douglas, Robert G. Ingersoll, et al who could not only prepare but think on their feet. Today, candidates rarely write their own words; they have staff for that. Instead of an argument based on an exchange of logical statements, you have zingers, sound bytes, and abbreviated campaign speeches.

geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
2. When lies are considered an asset because they are well delivered.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

Without first and foremost saying this is a lie or what the person said here is a lie so it should be nullified the news outlets are playing right into the hand of the liars and assisting them.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
3. Debates
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:33 AM
Oct 2012

The information in the link you provided seems to have been the model for assembling the Republican playbook.

The similarities are truly frightening.

I think Naomi Wolf was definitely on to something when she wrote, 'Ten Steps to Fascism'.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. From that link:
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:30 PM
Oct 2012

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
― Adolf Hitler

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
― Adolf Hitler

“What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.”
― Adolf Hitler

“The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. ”
― Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Letters and Notes

“The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.”
― Adolf Hitler
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