Josh can't comprehend the GOP bubble - "Disturbing"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/disturbing.php?ref=fpblgJOSH MARSHALL NOVEMBER 11, 2012, 11:03 PM 16168
"As you know, the great question that faces the nation today is this: were Republicans, particularly Mitt Romney, really shell shocked by the results of Tuesdays election or is this just some elaborate con-job for reasons as yet unknown.
Back on Thursday I expressed my own uncertainty about just what to make of all this. On the one hand, the story seems so universal and there seems so little reason at this point to keep up the pretense, unless theres some reason Im not aware of to keep pumping up retroactive erstaz Romney momentum. So the unanimity of the story gives it increasing credibility. On the other hand the scale of the goof just seems too much to believe and the Romney camps own actions the desperate move into Pennsylvania, for instance dont really square with this purported confidence.
Now though we have yet another article in Politico reporting that not only did Romneys campaign have polls that were substantially off but that this was the case pretty much across all Republican campaigns.
I think at this point, I give up. I give in. I cant maintain my skepticism. I dont know quite how shell shocked Mitt and his crew were. But I dont see how not to believe that Republicans as a group were not working on the basis of internal polls that were just totally wrong. Cui Bono? Why lie this much? I simply dont see any purpose being served. Ive heard many suggest that they need to keep up this pretense because these are the bogus numbers they were serving up to Adelson and the other multi-billionaires to keep the money coming in. But this doesnt really make sense. Are these guys going to react worse because they were lied to than they are if they think the guys they gave their money to are a bunch of incompetents and morons?"
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I think many of here at TPM understand the bubble of self-delusion and alternate reality amongst the hard core right (centered in Faux news) much more so than Josh does, it seems. I am not surprised very much by the completeness of the alternate reality, bizarro world bubble - it is created by hubris (or, perhaps, the right wing pollster Hugh Briss !)
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Not really so surprising. As Rove well knows, if you say it often enough it becomes truth, even to those knowingly spreading the propaganda.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)The lies allowed him to continue raking in money for his group. For him, money=power.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)They probably went along with the charade to keep their organization in the black this cycle.
naomi123
(3 posts)Surely Rove is paid a percentage of his haul so he profits personally and also has money to dole out to candidates. Lots of reasons to tweak the polls to show a favorable outcome. Question how can he or those pollsters hope to be taken seriously in the future?
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Simply by beginning anew with the lies and distortions.....The crowd he'll need to re-establish credibility with seem predisposed to gullibility...Tell them what they WANT to hear,and all will be well again......