Need surgery? Good luck getting hospital cost info
Routine hip replacement surgery on a healthy patient without insurance may cost as little as $11,000 or up to nearly $126,000.
That's what researchers found after calling hospitals in every state, 122 in all, asking what a healthy 62-year-old woman would have to pay to get an artificial hip. Hospitals were told the made-up patient was the caller's grandmother, had no insurance but could afford to pay out of pocket that's why knowing the cost information ahead of time was so important.
About 15 percent of hospitals did not provide any price estimate, even after a researcher called back as many as five times.
The researchers were able to obtain a complete price estimate including physician fees from close to half the hospitals. But in most cases, that took contacting the hospital and doctor separately.
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2013/02/12/health/hospital-cost-info
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)That is helpful. I've bookmarked both sites.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)I think they don't want us to know what they are charging the insurance for and at what cost compared to people without insurance. Perhaps they raise those prices so that when the uninsured can't pay, they can get a bigger kick back from the government?
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... for my tubal/ablation last year, but when I tried to find out what the 'other fees' were going to be, my insurance company said 'the hospital can charge whatever they want' & calling the facility got me nowhere. Well, gee that was helpful.
So based on my ill-conceived idea that it was a quick procedure and the dr estimate was only a few hundred dollars, so additional costs might not be too bad, I went ahead with it.
I was in out-patient surgery and recovery for 3.5 hours from walk-in to wheel-out, and the hospital charged $12,000!!!!
My insurance at the time had a $3,000 deductible + 20% copay so I was on the hook for close to $5k.
Holy fuck.
Lasher
(27,604 posts)I have Blue Cross. They negotiate contracts with hospitals, to nail down just how much each procedure costs. Hospitals have to submit properly coded invoices to them, and there's no mystery charges such as the fees you've described. Hospitals often bill multiple times for a procedure that has been performed only once. Once Blue Cross has refused to pay an improper fee, the hospital cannot try to collect if from me. It's in the contract.
It's shocking, the bullshit that health care providers try to get us to pay for. I believe their systematically excessive charges often constitute criminal fraud.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... They didn't give us the option to "shop" ...
Lasher
(27,604 posts)My heart goes out to you and the rest of Americans who have shitty health insurance. You are a victim of a deliberate campaign to deprive us of affordable health care. But what the hell, you're covered, right?
Here is a link to an incisive DU thread on the subject: Their goal - END employer paid health care. Please Read.
Lasher
SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)These plans can vary widely. So, just saying, "we have Blue Cross" doesn't identify what the details of your plan are.
Lasher
(27,604 posts)I heartily agree with you.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)has the hospital been paid by your IC yet?
IMO, a hospital is no different than buying a used car or getting your septic tank cleaned out.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... then when I got what was leftover (my $5k) I called the hospital and said I could pay in full, next day bank draft, if they would knock 25% off the bill. THEY REFUSED!
So I told them I'd just wait for it to go to collections and strike the same bargain with the collection agency - no skin off my ass, my credit rating already sucks. And that's what I did.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)nt
arikara
(5,562 posts)My Mr just had a(nother) heart attack. Fire department and paramedics responded to the house and took him by ambulance to the nearest hospital 20 miles away. On the way he was met and stabilized by an advanced life support team. Spent the night in emergency then moved to a cardiac ward. Had an angiogram where it was determined that his heart was too weak and he would be better treated by a different hospital in case he needed a transplant. Flown by helicopter with advanced life support to the other hospital, where he had a triple bypass operation and was in an intensive care recovery ward with a special nurse dedicated to him for nearly a week. During that time he's had numerous other tests and treatments. We don't know when he'll be released to come home yet, and he was first admitted on Feb 1 so it will be 2 weeks tomorrow of intensive medical care.
The only cost to us is a relative pittance for the transport by ambulance and helicopter which is based on distance, not mode of travel. I suspect that it'll be around $200 in total.
I feel just so bad for you people who have to live with the American health care system. I have no idea what we would be billed under your system, probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.