Hillary Clinton's Business Legacy at the State Department (leading part in drafting TPP)
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-10/hillary-clintons-business-legacy-at-the-state-department#p1In four years as the nations top diplomat, Clinton, who is expected to step down this month, has made dozens of similar sales pitches on behalf of U.S. companies. In 2009 she toured a Boeing plant in Moscow and met with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to persuade state-owned Russian Technologies to buy 50 Boeing 737s instead of jets made by Airbus. That $3.7 billion deal was one of several large contracts Clinton helped clinch for Boeing (BA). In December 2011, Lockheed Martin (LMT) announced a $7.2 billion deal to upgrade Japans aging fighter jet fleet, beating out Eurofighter. Clinton advocated for the contract with her Japanese counterpart at the United Nations General Assembly. In February 2012, Space Systems/Loral, which builds communications satellites in Palo Alto, won a contract for equipment to create a national broadband network in Australia. Clinton met with former Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd several times to press for the deal. Last summer, Clintons undersecretary for economic growth, Robert Hormats, a former Goldman Sachs (GS) vice chair, took executives from Google (GOOG), MasterCard (MA), and Dow Chemical (DOW) to Myanmar to network with government officials, the first such meeting since sanctions against the country were lifted in 2012.
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Shes pressed the case for U.S. business in Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in Chinas shadow. Shes also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade pact that would give U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Speaks volumes.
NAFTA decimated Ohio and from what I've heard, TPP is NAFTA on steroids.
antigop
(12,778 posts)nt
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)yeah. .
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)How sad that we have gotten to the point that we will settle for anyone as long as there is someone worse. The Lesser of Evils Theory has gotten us where we are today. Why cant we hold out for those that meet Democratic principles?
The Conservative Democrats are killing the party. They are willing to settle for anything their leaders give them. Always relying on the "It's better than __________ (fill in the blank)."
If you are happy with the way things are going, then vote for Ms. Clinton.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)4dsc
(5,787 posts)Your statement is a correct one.
Convincing that 99% is the hard part.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The 99% wont get a choice. The choices in 2016 will be Clinton vs. Christie or Clinton vs. one of the clowns.
on edit there is another possibility, Christie switches parties and runs against one of the clowns. The centrists here would love that.
antigop
(12,778 posts)nt
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the current policies toward Wall Street and Booz-Allen-Hamilton?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I support Democratic principles and you support Obama. I guess we will never agree.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)discord within Democrats. You claim this is 'name-calling' which is obviously wrong. Name calling generally an attempt to characterize someone as somehow a morally inferior class of being. I have said I think you are engaging in a dishonest rhetorical practice of creating what appears to be actual disagreement within the democratic camp. I identified you as a member of those individuals who are accurately characterized as operating in the interests of the GOP while passing themselves off as members of the Democratic party of the Democratic persuasion, if you will. I think, based on the outlandish insinuations of this thread which you have agreed with or contributed to, this is a reasonable conclusion.
That isn't name-calling but I can see how you would want to misrepresent my identification of your tactic.
You claim to have devined my political leanings (re Obama) without any evidence (at least none cited). But this approach is consistent with methods of the article referred to in OP, which you find so appealing.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... that's all you've got, and by-damn you're sticking to them. We welcome your hate, though, like FDR did. Why don't we talk real issues?
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)their love dance with Wall Street. You better believe that Gen Clapper, Gen Alexander, Herr Mueller, and torturer Comey will remain in charge. Free trade will be the song of the day as the middle class disappears. Her wealth makes her a strong member of the 1%.
She does not represent the 99%.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Her voting record in the Senate:
more details here (if you can stand to read it...LOL).
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No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased. (Jul 2007)
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)
Stand up for unions; organize for fair wages. (Jun 2007)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-burnett/its-the-economy-stupid_b_67667.html
Get tough with China and bring jobs back home. (Feb 2007)
Minimum wage increases havent kept up with Congress wages. (Dec 2006)
Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, New Jobs for New York. (Oct 2006)
Minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries. (Jun 2006)
Pushed for extension of unemployment insurance. (Feb 2004)
The working poor deserve a living wage. (Oct 1999)
America can afford to raise the minimum wage. (Sep 1999)
Recently were in it together became youre on your own. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Nov 2008)
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Protect overtime pay protections. (Jun 2003)
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006)
Sponsored bill linking minimum wage to Congress' pay raises. (May 2006)
Extend unemployment compensation during recession. (Jan 2008)
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)You apparently dont want to have a decent discussion. Goodbye.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Plain old sexism explains a lot of the right's reaction to Hillary (just as racism explains a lot of the right's reaction to President Obama). As we've seen with President Obama, even when he endorses positions that the right has historically supported, their knee-jerk reaction will be to oppose him. So is it that hard to believe a similar dynamic is at work with respect to Hillary? I think the right can almost never be understood in terms of simple support (or not) for policy positions.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Most of them don't realize this of course. They choose hypocrisy as preferable than a frightening existence of nothingness.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . You implied above that Hillary couldn't be the corporatist many accuse her of being, because if she were, the right wouldn't hate her so much. My point is that the right's hatred of Hillary is not, in any case, based on her relative degree of support, or lack thereof, for causes the right claims it supports. Thus the fact that the right hates her doesn't really prove anything concerning her corporatist leanings one way or the other.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Her voting record in the Senate:
more details here (if you can stand to read it...LOL).
[font size="3"]
No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased. (Jul 2007)
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)
Stand up for unions; organize for fair wages. (Jun 2007)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-burnett/its-the-economy-stupid_b_67667.html
Get tough with China and bring jobs back home. (Feb 2007)
Minimum wage increases havent kept up with Congress wages. (Dec 2006)
Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, New Jobs for New York. (Oct 2006)
Minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries. (Jun 2006)
Pushed for extension of unemployment insurance. (Feb 2004)
The working poor deserve a living wage. (Oct 1999)
America can afford to raise the minimum wage. (Sep 1999)
Recently were in it together became youre on your own. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Nov 2008)
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Protect overtime pay protections. (Jun 2003)
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006)
Sponsored bill linking minimum wage to Congress' pay raises. (May 2006)
Extend unemployment compensation during recession. (Jan 2008)
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MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Helping the rich get richer.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)C'mon, Democrats. Haven't we seen the A-Clinton-as-President-Sells-Us-Out-to-Corporations-via-Free-Trade-Agreements movie already?
It was lousy.
There is no need to make a sequel. It would suck even worse.
Elizabeth Warren, Alan Grayson, Wendy Davis, or even Al Franken for President. Not Hillary.
-app
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)That's why I supported Obama over her and what good did it do?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)pretend it's democracy.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Boy if that isn't the truth!
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)I have my own mind. Thank you very much. Oh it call democracy, remember.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Nt.
antigop
(12,778 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)thanks for posting
antigop
(12,778 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I knew about Keystone http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023022353 but not TPP.
It is very disheartening to know all this in advance knowing she will put her big shoes on in the primary if there will even be one or go straight to coronation. Good lord I hope not.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,953 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,953 posts)Can you recommend a way of finding out who 'got it' that doesn't resemble an Easter egg hunt?
antigop
(12,778 posts)Do you see any of the posters from this group?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1107
<edit to add>: Why not? Maybe they missed this thread?
Cirque du So-What
(25,953 posts)I thought you meant others had been PPRed, but I see that you were talking about Hillary Clinton's ardent boosters instead.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,953 posts)Becoming a well-rounded individual is a worthy aspiration. Beats the alternative, which is to become so narrowly focused that any & all criticism is strictly forbidden.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Looks like there are only 3 active posters to that group.
antigop
(12,778 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)our behalf?
antigop
(12,778 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Maybe the first thing I would interrupt a super bowl or a state of the union to tell people about the TPP is that it creates corporate nationhood. This is something I started to focus on after interviewing Lacey Kohlmoos of Public Citizen on my radio show. Public Citizen has a website set up at ExposeTheTPP.org. Another coalition has created FlushTheTPP.org. Another is at CitizensTrade.org. And then there's a cross-border effort to organize against the TPP at TPPxborder.org. You can find pretty much everything I have to say, and much more, at those websites. You can sign up and get involved with ongoing campaigns as things develop at those websites.
Many of us have heard of corporate personhood. Corporations have been given the Constitutional rights of persons by U.S. courts over the past 40 years, including the right to spend money on elections. By corporate nationhood I mean the bestowing of the rights of nations on corporations. The TPP, drafts of which have been leaked to Public Citizen, has 29 chapters, only five of which -- according to Public Citizen's thinking -- deal with trade. The others deal with things like food safety, internet freedom, medicine costs, job off-shoring, and financial regulation. Treaties, according to Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, are -- together with the Constitution itself -- the supreme law of the land. So U.S. laws would have to be made to comply with the TPP's rules.
pauliedangerously
(886 posts)That ought to have a thread of its own. Thanks for sharing!!!
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Monday, 12 August 2013 09:28
"Instead of protecting US citizens, the Obama administration is enabling the ultimate corporate "Deathstar." The TransPacific Partnership will allow corporations "virtually unchecked control of our food supply, our land, air, water, wallets and our future."
More: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/18115-mankind-death-by-corporation-part-iii-the-tpp-as-corporate-deathstar
antigop
(12,778 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The bankers are a key problem.
Theoretically, banks make a profit by lending or investing depositors' money.
Depositors are receiving almost no interest from the banks, yet the New York bankers are receiving huge salaries plus bonuses.
Something is wrong with that picture. If banks are earning money from deposits, why are depositors earning so little interest. If banks aren't earning money from deposits, why are bankers so well paid?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I might just have to add your OP to my sigline.
Progressive dog
(6,915 posts)and American interests. Giving U.S. companies a leg up on their Chinese competitors sounds like something Americans could support. The Chinese might have a problem with it (and they do).