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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:40 AM Aug 2013

Bolivia: President Proposes to Take US to International Tribunal

The diplomatic scandal in question took place on 2nd July when Morales’ plane was re-routed on its return journey from a conference in Moscow as several European countries denied him airspace mistakenly believing that former US Intelligence Agent, Edward Snowden, was smuggled on board. The Bolivian President has since accepted the apologies from the European states involved, but has attributed the incident to Europe cow-tailing to the “repressive policies” of the US.
In addition, the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA) -an organisation that brings together South American and Caribbean countries- has “commissioned a legal and technical study to find out what legal arguments exist” in order to prosecute the US for espionage. The diplomatic violation came to light when Snowdon leaked the extent of the National Security Agency’s (NSA) surveillance of energy, military, politics, and terror, activity across Latin America.
While Morales has stated the importance of restoring US ambassadors in Bolivia, which have not been present since Ambassador Philip Goldberg and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) were expelled in 2008, he also claimed that there would always be mistrust.
He asserted that “there is a look about the US, of pride, of submission, of using geopolitics for monopolistic purposes… It is never going to change…We must re-establish ambassadors, formalities, but we are not going to be trustful.”

http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromlatinamerica/bolivia-president-proposes-to-take-us-to-inte

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Bolivia: President Proposes to Take US to International Tribunal (Original Post) midnight Aug 2013 OP
Good. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #1
Excellent! RoccoR5955 Aug 2013 #7
"he also claimed there would always be mistrust" JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #2
You bring up an important point about U.S. Embassy status that contracted midnight Aug 2013 #4
Well, good luck with that. We're an empire, doncha know... truth2power Aug 2013 #3
It will be interesting to see how this request will be responded too... Which law will be used? midnight Aug 2013 #6
Reining in the United States has to start somewhere. RC Aug 2013 #5
he also claimed that there would always be mistrust. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #8
Did you find that they trust their own governments? Zorro Aug 2013 #9

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
2. "he also claimed there would always be mistrust"
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:32 AM
Aug 2013

I think this can't be overcome. He can try to bring the US to an International Tribunal - doesn't mean they will be effective - or that the US would show up. We don't have an Embassy there? At their request? We were expelled and complied peacefully? It seems like to them - this was the final nail in the coffin.

What would be the end game of a Tribunal? Sanctions? A call to end all trade with the US for all countries?

ETA: This is interesting -

In addition, the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA) -an organisation that brings together South American and Caribbean countries- has “commissioned a legal and technical study to find out what legal arguments exist” in order to prosecute the US for espionage. The diplomatic violation came to light when Snowdon leaked the extent of the National Security Agency’s (NSA) surveillance of energy, military, politics, and terror, activity across Latin America.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
4. You bring up an important point about U.S. Embassy status that contracted
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:07 AM
Aug 2013

sharply last week with several closings. Our willingness to shut these diplomatic corridors signal our International policies may not be trusted either....

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
3. Well, good luck with that. We're an empire, doncha know...
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

and whatever we're doing is legal, blah blah.

Evo better be careful or we'll drop a drone on his ass for being so impertinent.















 

RC

(25,592 posts)
5. Reining in the United States has to start somewhere.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:08 AM
Aug 2013

Someone has to take the lead to get the process started.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
8. he also claimed that there would always be mistrust.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:21 AM
Aug 2013

Tell me bout it. I just spent about a month traveling all over South America. The people are really great. They don't hate us for our freedoms (joking), they don't hate us for our debauchery, they don't hate us for anything really. They tolerate our government and understand we are trying our best as people.

But they don't trust us. Ouch that stings. I think I would rather they hate me.

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