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Hestia

(3,818 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:41 PM Aug 2013

The Entire History of the World—Really, All of It—Distilled Into a Single Gorgeous Chart (1931)

This “Histomap,” created by John B. Sparks, was first printed by Rand McNally in 1931. (The David Rumsey Map Collection hosts a fully zoomable version here.) (Update: Click on the image below to arrive at a bigger version.)
This giant, ambitious chart fit neatly with a trend in nonfiction book publishing of the 1920s and 1930s: the “outline,” in which large subjects (the history of the world! every school of philosophy! all of modern physics!) were distilled into a form comprehensible to the most uneducated layman.

The 5-foot-long Histomap was sold for $1 and folded into a green cover, which featured endorsements from historians and reviewers. The chart was advertised as “clear, vivid, and shorn of elaboration,” while at the same time capable of “holding you enthralled” by presenting:

the actual picture of the march of civilization, from the mud huts of the ancients thru the monarchistic glamour of the middle ages to the living panorama of life in present day America.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/08/12/the_1931_histomap_the_entire_history_of_the_world_distilled_into_a_single.html?wpisrc=obinsite
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The interactive timeline is fantastic. It's interesting to see how the various countries and rulers weave in and out of history. I do hope this has not posted before - couldn't find the thread if it has.

I'll bet this is something in actual print.

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The Entire History of the World—Really, All of It—Distilled Into a Single Gorgeous Chart (1931) (Original Post) Hestia Aug 2013 OP
History of the Old World Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #1
There isn't exactly a written record of the history of the people you name. shraby Aug 2013 #2
Really? On who's paltry library are there no written records? Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #4
They exist, but most didn't have a written language and those that did, the early churches destroyed shraby Aug 2013 #19
Thanks, that explains a lot Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #20
Some did. The Mexica, or Aztecs did BainsBane Aug 2013 #21
No Africans either.....n/t jaysunb Aug 2013 #5
Yea, they didn't get much free time to write their memoirs Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #11
I noticed this too. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #7
The map was made in 1931 ... Trajan Aug 2013 #8
Grrr! Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #9
Mexico a Traves de los Siglos (Mexico through the Centuries) was published in 1884 Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #10
Pretty cool but I see nothing of North, Central or South America Native peoples n/t boomer55 Aug 2013 #3
Lower left hand side. Igel Aug 2013 #17
In 1931 SteveG Aug 2013 #18
Will this be on the test? Scuba Aug 2013 #6
It’s unclear what the width of the colored streams is meant to indicate. progressoid Aug 2013 #12
The top of the chart says "Relative Power of Contemporary States, Nations and Empires" Jim Lane Aug 2013 #13
It's definitely in print -- I used to have one. nt Stardust Aug 2013 #14
Good illustration of classic history. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #15
the 20s and 30s were the heyday of Big History--Tonybee and Spengler's grand graphs and narratives MisterP Aug 2013 #16
Firstly, any notion that you can tell or contain all of history BainsBane Aug 2013 #22

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. History of the Old World
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Aug 2013

I see no Olmecs, Chichimecs, Zapotecs, Otomí, Mexica, Inca, Navajo, Apache, Yaqui, Inuit, Algonquin...

Shall I go on?

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. Really? On who's paltry library are there no written records?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:51 PM
Aug 2013

I haven't heard of them so they don't exist? Is that it?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
19. They exist, but most didn't have a written language and those that did, the early churches destroyed
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:49 AM
Aug 2013

what they had written down.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
20. Thanks, that explains a lot
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:11 AM
Aug 2013

Truly.


Regarding languages:

Mesoamerican languages are the languages indigenous to the Mesoamerican cultural area, which covers southern Mexico, all of Guatemala and Belize and parts of Honduras and El Salvador. The area is characterized by extensive linguistic diversity containing several hundred different languages and seven major language families. Mesoamerica is also an area of high linguistic diffusion in that long-term interaction among speakers of different languages through several millennia has resulted in the convergence of certain linguistic traits across disparate language families. The Mesoamerican sprachbund is commonly referred to as the Mesoamerican Linguistic Area.

The languages of Mesoamerica were also among the first to evolve independent traditions of writing. The oldest texts date to approximately 1000 B.C.E. while most texts in the indigenous scripts (such as Maya) date to ca. 600–900 CE. Following the arrival of the Spanish in the 16th century, and continuing up until the 19th century, most Mesoamerican languages were written in Latin script.

The languages of Mesoamerica belong to 6 major families – Mayan, Oto-Mangue, Mixe–Zoque, Totonacan, Uto-Aztecan and Chibchan languages (only on the southern border of the area) – as well as a few smaller families and isolates – P'urhépecha (Tarascan), Huave, Tequistlatec and Misumalpan. Among these Oto-Manguean and Mayan families account for the largest numbers of speakers by far – each having speakers numbering more than a million. Many Mesoamerican languages today are either endangered or already extinct, but others, including the Mayan languages, Nahuatl, Mixtec and Zapotec, have several hundred thousand speakers and remain viable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_languages


"In no other major civilization do self-regard, self-congratulation and denigration of the ‘Other’ run as deep, nor have these tendencies infected as many aspects of their thinking, laws, and policy, as they have in the West and its overseas extensions."

- Edgar Alfred Bowring

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocentrism

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
21. Some did. The Mexica, or Aztecs did
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:57 PM
Aug 2013

and the Spanish had them transcribe some of their own history into the Florentine Codex.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. Yea, they didn't get much free time to write their memoirs
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:15 PM
Aug 2013

Or to learn to read or write, for that matter.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
7. I noticed this too.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:01 PM
Aug 2013

There are a few Inca, Maya, and Aztec on the left-hand side between about 1000-1500 AD.

Probably could be more though.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
8. The map was made in 1931 ...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

While it doesn't comprise a comprehensive, all inclusive history, it's still pretty damned cool ...

However ... Some will be angry, because people get angry ... and they like that ... the anger ...

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
10. Mexico a Traves de los Siglos (Mexico through the Centuries) was published in 1884
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

I have a copy of the 1936 edition.

All 5 volumes, each about the size of the New York Phone Book, back when They printed the New York phone book.


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9xico_a_trav%C3%A9s_de_los_siglos

Igel

(35,300 posts)
17. Lower left hand side.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 05:14 PM
Aug 2013

Orange.

The rise of the states known at the time, as known at the time. Then they all but vanish and are compressed into the black line on the left of the chart, only to resurface as South America. Since the writing system hadn't been cracked, there's not a whole lot of detail.

The chart lists powers (nations or groups) current as of 1931 and their relative importance/strength--and traces them back. If a civilization--say, Egypt--vanishes by absorption, it's shown as vanishing by absorption.

There were no African powers apart from perhaps Egypt. Colonialism made that clear. There were no independent "Native peoples" states, either--they were the various South American countries, an amalgam of recent, not quite so recent, and very much not recent immigrants.

It is what it says to be, and if somebody wants something different they're free to create it. But it was also created in the late '20s and probably 1930, and expecting it to reflect later attitudes is simply unrealistic.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
18. In 1931
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:50 PM
Aug 2013

very little was known of the Aztec, Maya, Inca, Olmecs. We were just discovering their cities and being forced to take another look at the writings of the early spaniards who conquered these peoples in a more objective light.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. Will this be on the test?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

Seriously, despite it's euro-centric view, it's interesting and I'm glad you posted it.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
13. The top of the chart says "Relative Power of Contemporary States, Nations and Empires"
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:55 PM
Aug 2013

I would say width is an assessment, necessarily somewhat subjective, of relative power.

For example, the Roman Empire reached its greatest geographical extent early in the second century A.D., under Trajan, and the chart notes "Roman Empire at its greatest extent" around that time. Nevertheless, the Empire's band on the chart is wider around 50 B.C. The rise of the Goths meant that Rome had less relative power at the later date, even though it had more territory.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. the 20s and 30s were the heyday of Big History--Tonybee and Spengler's grand graphs and narratives
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

(of course it's not gonna look much past the Zagros)

there's also one for the 19th-c. US parties and the 50s and 60s Space Race
http://www.historyshots.com/

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
22. Firstly, any notion that you can tell or contain all of history
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:00 PM
Aug 2013

conceives of the discipline in extremely narrow terms. Also the 1930s was well before the proliferation of social history, so most of what we now think of as history was ignored.

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