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Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools? (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2013 OP
sure Kali Feb 2013 #1
As a tribal myth, alongside other tribal creation myths, sure. onwardsand upwards Feb 2013 #2
He's talkin' crazy talk. 02potato Feb 2013 #3
As soon as they can prove with scientific evidence god exists. Tempest Feb 2013 #4
Sure Shadowflash Feb 2013 #5
Only if ridiculed as myth. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #6
your pre-edit post was better, IMO demwing Feb 2013 #9
I reconsidered my opinion (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #10
If you believe that will ever happen demwing Feb 2013 #11
Touche! In any case, it's something to work towards, and we are making progress Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #12
If you believe that will ever happen AlbertCat Feb 2013 #17
Because the OP mentioned other deities demwing Feb 2013 #18
I think it's a part of what we are AlbertCat Feb 2013 #20
"Jesus the Jewish Zombie"? It may be that the myth was created by a Roman emperor. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #13
Interesting. In any case, there is no need to teach it as anything but myth n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #16
Agreed AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #14
Absolutely demwing Feb 2013 #7
Can you imagine people in the USA actually sitting down to discuss this? robbob Feb 2013 #8
Not a chance demwing Feb 2013 #19
That 1st twit is so full of it. AlbertCat Feb 2013 #15
K&R Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #21
Yes, but only as a fairy tale. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #22
I don't have a problem with that. Many schools have courses in mythology. Gorp Feb 2013 #23
 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
2. As a tribal myth, alongside other tribal creation myths, sure.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:49 PM
Feb 2013

Every primitive tribe has had its own creation myth. Here's a compilation of some of them:

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSIndex.html

Representing the biblical creation myth as somehow more legitimate than any of the others is just ethnocentrism.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
10. I reconsidered my opinion (cont)
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:11 PM
Feb 2013

I believe it is time that we put stone age myths and fantasies behind us. This needs to happen if we are to advance as a society. Magical thinking should be labelled as such and rejected. ALL of it.

Jesus the Jewish Zombie is no more REAL than the Tooth Faerie, Vushnu, Thor, or Spiderman -- and children should be taught this so that they know.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. If you believe that will ever happen
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:08 PM
Feb 2013

EVER happen? EVER is a long time.

I'm sure you would have said the same thing to "When we put Zeus and Hera behind us and teach them as myth" in 800 BCE.


Christianity can pass away just like any other religion.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
18. Because the OP mentioned other deities
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:19 PM
Feb 2013

I inferred he/she was referring to religion in general.

Christianity will probably go the way of Zeus, but i don't think humans will give up religion. I think it's a part of what we are, of course ymmv.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
7. Absolutely
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:50 PM
Feb 2013

in private schools, please have at it 100%

In public schools? not so much, bubba.

Only within a sociology framework, and only as a comparison between the various creation accounts.

Never as an alternative to science, never showing preference to one story over another.



 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
19. Not a chance
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:28 PM
Feb 2013

in fact, fear of divine judgement is one of the root motivations for our national socio-political behavior and mindset.

To some, making an argument against God is not rational or scientific, it's evil. The more effort you direct toward that end, the more violent the opposition you will face.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
15. That 1st twit is so full of it.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:38 PM
Feb 2013

His straw-man argument is sophomoric. "We need to look at the science carefully" Uh.... I think they (scientists) did that already. Peer review, y'know, is essential for a theory to be accepted.

And don't many religious people just think Natural Selection is something a god came up with anyway? Evolution doesn't lead to atheism....rational thought does.

So teach it in theology class (with all the other creation myths).... but not science class.

Also, anyone who thinks the Earth is just thousands of years old need not be listened to on such a subject. I'm sorry, but such a view is not EQUALLY respectable as the scientific one or deserves such respect.

I'm sorry but if one wants to be taken seriously, one must get with the program. His religion and faith no doubt give HIM great comfort and joy, but that is HIS, not everyone's So too his problem with evolution....it's HIS problem and need not concern those of us who follow evidence rationally to where it leads.

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