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lovuian

(19,362 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 04:19 PM Jul 2013

600 hives found dead in Canada due to GMO seeds and pesticides



http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/07/01/over-30-million-bees-found-dead-in-elmwood-canada/I



Shortly after 50,000 bees were found dead in an Oregon parking lot (read more here), a staggering 37 million bees have been found dead in Elmwood, Ontario, Canada.Dave Schuit, who runs a honey operation in Elmwood has lost 600 hives. He is pointing the finger at the insecticides known as neonicotinoids, which are manufactured by Bayer CropScience Inc. This also comes after a recent report released by the British Beekeepers Association (BBKA) that recorded its largest loss of honeybees ever. You can read more about that here. The European Union has stepped forward, having ban multiple pesticides that have been linked to killing millions of bees. You can view the studies and read more about that here.
The loss comes after the planting of corn. Neonicotinoid pesticides are used to coat corn seed with air seeders, which result in blowing the pesticide dust into the air when planted. The death of millions of pollinators was studied by Purdue University. They discovered that Bees exhibited neurotoxic symptoms. They analyzed dead bees and found that traces of thiamethoxam/clothiandin were present in each case. The only major source of these compounds are seed treatments of field crops. You can view that study here (1).

Bee deaths are increasing exponentially. An international team of scientists led by Holland’s Utrecht University has concluded that, “large scale prophylaxic use in agriculture, their high persistence in soil and water, and their uptake by plants and translocation to flowers, neonicotinoids put pollinators at risk. This is some of the research that led to the European Unions ban of the pesticides, as mentioned and referenced earlier.
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600 hives found dead in Canada due to GMO seeds and pesticides (Original Post) lovuian Jul 2013 OP
Kind of a sick irony there, huh. ananda Jul 2013 #1
The needle on my bullshit meter just bent. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #2
What part do you think is bullshit? djean111 Jul 2013 #3
EU nations are experiencing mass bee losses DESPITE GMO/Pesticide bans AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #6
do you have a source lovuian Jul 2013 #8
There's actually a great CRS summation of multiple studies on it. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #10
thanks for the link lovuian Jul 2013 #11
It is and certainly can be. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #12
The ban just went into effect in April of this year. The pesticides hang around for a while after pam4water Jul 2013 #13
Germany temporarily banned them in 2008 AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #14
The GMOs or the pesticides? pam4water Jul 2013 #15
Probable anything that has the word science in it. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #7
consider the source.... n/t chervilant Jul 2013 #9
That really is frightening news! In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #4
here is a local source for this article if the Science Academy is not good enough lovuian Jul 2013 #5
I understand the pesticide link naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #16
from what I got out of the article above lovuian Jul 2013 #17

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. EU nations are experiencing mass bee losses DESPITE GMO/Pesticide bans
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

Including in member states that never used them before.

I am sure there are some of either that can be poisonous to bees, but there is more going on here than just GMO/Pesticide use. Correlation != Causation. (There appear to be MULTIPLE causes for CCD)

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
8. do you have a source
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jul 2013

I would love to read it
Multiple causes are you saying the EU Purdue University and Holland Utrecht University studies are incorrect

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. There's actually a great CRS summation of multiple studies on it.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/beyond-pesticides-colony-collapse-disorder-zwfz1301zkin.aspx#axzz2Y1Te8689

The pesticides are playing a role, undoubtedly, in some cases. From incompatible pesticides (directly harmful) to improper application of pesticides that would not otherwise harm bees. There is all sorts of other causes. CCD is a failure of the bee hive in total. There are multiple paths to that failure. We force-feed bees uniform crops, for one thing. Bees need a diversity of plants for a healthy diet. Improper diet/malnutrition can affect bees as surely as any toxic pesticide, and put them behind the curve on resisting a simple fungus that a healthy hive would shrug off without effort, collapse, and die off.

Habitat, diet, beekeeping practices, all sorts of things can make or break a hive. Pesticides can do it, GMO's remain to be seen, but there are lots of ways to kill off bees and we need to understand them all.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
11. thanks for the link
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jul 2013

The Congressional Research Service report acknowledges research findings that have focused on the potential of neonicotinoids to “affect complex behaviors in insects, including flight, navigation, olfactory memory, recruitment, foraging, and coordination.”


Read more: http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/beyond-pesticides-colony-collapse-disorder-zwfz1301zkin.aspx#ixzz2Y1fVhE00
The CRS report identifies a range of issues regarding:

1. Changes to managed and wild bee populations (indicating limited information);

2. Factors that are documented to impact bee health, including pesticides, pests and diseases, diet and nutrition, genetics, habitat loss, and beekeeper issues, highlighting that there are multiple exposure pathways that may work synergistically;

3. Scientific research on the role of pesticides; and,

4. Current research and regulatory activity regarding neonicotinoids, a neurotoxic insecticide impacting bees.


from the report pesticides was a major component causing bee deaths

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. It is and certainly can be.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

But not all pesticides and not all applied correctly. (My point was only that there are additional known causes, not that all pesticides are safe; they clearly are not)

pam4water

(2,916 posts)
13. The ban just went into effect in April of this year. The pesticides hang around for a while after
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jul 2013

use. I think they may just have limited there use. Can't tell for a couple of years if the ban is helping the bees or not.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/victory-for-bees-as-european-union-bans-neonicotinoid-pesticides-blamed-for-destroying-bee-population-8595408.html

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. Germany temporarily banned them in 2008
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jul 2013

and the corn version remains banned to date. They are still having the problem.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
5. here is a local source for this article if the Science Academy is not good enough
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.thepost.on.ca/2013/06/19/bees-dying-by-the-millions


ELMWOOD - Local beekeepers are finding millions of their bees dead just after corn was planted here in the last few weeks. Dave Schuit, who has a honey operation in Elmwood, lost 600 hives, a total of 37 million bees.

“Once the corn started to get planted our bees died by the millions,” Schuit said. He and many others, including the European Union, are pointing the finger at a class of insecticides known as neonicotinoids, manufactured by Bayer CropScience Inc. used in planting corn and some other crops. The European Union just recently voted to ban these insecticides for two years, beginning December 1, 2013, to be able to study how it relates to the large bee kill they are experiencing there also.


it is connected to GMO corn and Purdue University and Holland Utrect University is verifying the results of studies conducted in the European Union

what is coming out is the United States reluctance to accept scientific studies identifying the destruction of bee hives and the introduction of GMO corn

Extinction of the bees is definitely possible
the Corporations grip on the world agricultures is exposed and that is not bull but the truth

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
17. from what I got out of the article above
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:08 PM
Jul 2013

was that His Hives was alive until they started planting the GMO corn ....then they died

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