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4th of July DUI Checkpoint-Drug Dogs, Searched without Consent, Rights Taken Away, while Innocent (Original Post) RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 OP
The 4th amendment is dead. In my area cops have been LibDemAlways Jul 2013 #1
Nazi pigs. They've earned the title. Th1onein Jul 2013 #2
so glad i don't live in Tennessee anymore. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #3
I have been thankful all my life, that my father got the hell out of Tenn. long lumpy Jul 2013 #51
I'm chagrined that either my ggggf, my gggf, my ggf, my grand-father or my father didn't get the indepat Jul 2013 #58
Don't feel bad. bitchkitty Jul 2013 #71
The only thing that surprises me ablamj Jul 2013 #4
Well that, AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #7
^ these truebrit71 Jul 2013 #14
This is why you need a live feed to a server. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #23
... How do you do that? Neoma Jul 2013 #42
Kinda like this... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #48
They may have run out of things to plant already. suzanner Jul 2013 #47
Rec rec rec rec!!!! Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #5
In 2000, the Supreme Court decided that it is unconstitutional to conduct suspicionless searches at AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #6
So then based on this video the driver could sue, yes? truebrit71 Jul 2013 #15
Theoritically. Theoritically, he could also ask Eric Holder to sue. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #17
!! KansDem Jul 2013 #59
This has been going on for twenty years in my area of So. Cal. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #8
You are corrrect. This has been the norm for quite some time RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #11
There'z not enough fire power in the world to stop the goons anymore. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #13
And certainly not a United States Attorney General. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #18
Is that third picture the mattress tag police? eomer Jul 2013 #16
The NSA just recorded that you removed the mattress tag. James48 Jul 2013 #61
That reminds me that I pulled my first one at about the age of 8, just to see... rwsanders Jul 2013 #65
And there will be defenders of this. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #19
Uh--- a little different there ya think? trumad Jul 2013 #39
Boston Marathon bomber search unionthug Jul 2013 #40
look Skeeter Barnes Jul 2013 #62
This can happen only because there are no consequences to the police for freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #9
Interesting chervilant Jul 2013 #10
K&R midnight Jul 2013 #12
Oh c'mon..I personally haven't been subjected to an illegal search in Tennessee abq e streeter Jul 2013 #20
A good reason to stay out of Tennessee. A good reason to not have bumper stickers. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #29
I had seriously thought of removing them before that trip abq e streeter Jul 2013 #33
Good reason not to have a car. caseymoz Jul 2013 #35
They aren't happy until they sense real fear. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #21
In the second photo Maedhros Jul 2013 #22
The occupant of the house RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #26
Just behaving as he's been trained to in "enemy territory." leveymg Jul 2013 #27
But, hey, anything to keep us safe from a threat Maedhros Jul 2013 #30
To be fair tho... Plucketeer Jul 2013 #44
I have little animosity toward veterans of our military ventures Maedhros Jul 2013 #49
I couldn't agree more with your summation. Plucketeer Jul 2013 #53
But HEY! Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #24
Just what is the officer doing at the 3:15 (+/-) mark? sgsmith Jul 2013 #25
He led the dog to get up on the hood. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #55
The new normal. Alkene Jul 2013 #28
The trouble with normal is it always gets worse. Maedhros Jul 2013 #50
It is scary shit. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #56
From ACLU website: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI Alkene Jul 2013 #64
Ever wonder how the Nazi's came to power. People became blind to sh*t like this egold2604 Jul 2013 #31
Come On. The guy with the video could have a pole dancing girlfriend. Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #32
You forgot he sarcasm smiley.... blackspade Jul 2013 #37
The "everyone knows it goes on" line is ridiculous. go west young man Jul 2013 #41
I wouldn't be surprised if dash cams become illegal once they ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #63
I really didn't think I needed the sarcasm thingy but.... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #46
I figured that you were but I wanted to be sure.... blackspade Jul 2013 #60
Out of control authoritarianism blackspade Jul 2013 #34
Disgusting. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #36
Can we make a fundraiser for that? Neoma Jul 2013 #45
Bravo for setting the camera to record. Mojo Electro Jul 2013 #38
And we mistakenly think The Wizard Jul 2013 #43
I had a similiar incident happen to me in Key West in February SmittynMo Jul 2013 #52
Makes ya proud to be a guilty-until-proven-innocent Amurkin. Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #54
Scope out your passenger side door handle. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #57
Recording this appears to be legal in Tennessee, by the way. Julian Englis Jul 2013 #66
Here's the third comment on YouTube when I checked: cpwm17 Jul 2013 #67
Keep it up RandiFan1290 J.J.Curry Jul 2013 #68
Glad he had his camera/phone/whatever rolling and love when the cops find it. oops. Assholes. uppityperson Jul 2013 #69
k/r nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #70

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
1. The 4th amendment is dead. In my area cops have been
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jul 2013

setting up illegal "vehicle smog inspection" checkpoints that are actually designed to catch undocumented individuals driving well-worn gardening trucks. They hide the INS "round up" vans around the corner. It's all bullshit.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
51. I have been thankful all my life, that my father got the hell out of Tenn. long
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jul 2013

before I was born.The only thing he retained was a slight Southern accent and good manners.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
58. I'm chagrined that either my ggggf, my gggf, my ggf, my grand-father or my father didn't get the
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jul 2013

hell out of Dodge (TN). But then, when transferred out of state, I came back at the first opportunity, so maybe not any of those five ancestors should be blamed.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
14. ^ these
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

...funny how they shut up as soon as they discovered the camera...i'm more surprised that the camera didn't get "broken" or "lost"...

Land of the Free my ass...

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. In 2000, the Supreme Court decided that it is unconstitutional to conduct suspicionless searches at
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jul 2013
roadblocks with drug-sniffing dogs.

City of Indianapolis v. Edmond, 531 U.S. 32 (2000)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/99-1030P.ZO

Since 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder decided that he would not enforce the civil rights laws prohibiting the police from violating civil rights.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
59. !!
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jul 2013


You had me going with that one!

It's now after 5pm and time for my evening libation. I only hope I don't think of your joke while sipping my cocktail...

RandiFan1290

(6,235 posts)
11. You are corrrect. This has been the norm for quite some time
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jul 2013

This is next









All completely "voluntary" of course.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
16. Is that third picture the mattress tag police?
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

I've removed the tag before but never got caught.

Uh oh, did I say that out loud?

James48

(4,436 posts)
61. The NSA just recorded that you removed the mattress tag.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jul 2013

I'll send you a cake when you are in commercially-run prison.

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
65. That reminds me that I pulled my first one at about the age of 8, just to see...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

It was before they carried the phrase "except by consumer".

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
19. And there will be defenders of this.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jul 2013

Some defenders will represent that they are liberals or progressives. They will lie about other things as well.

unionthug

(28 posts)
40. Boston Marathon bomber search
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jul 2013

I strongly believe that these photos posted by RandiFan1290 are from the search in Watertown, MA for the Boston Marathon bombers. (The town seal on the trash can, and the Massachusetts plates on the cars kind of gave it away.) It does indeed represent a kind of police state, but far different from the one represented by the nasty cop in TN.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
62. look
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jul 2013
Police were investigating an incident at 363 Eveningside Avenue that July when Officer Christopher Worley called up the occupant of a neighboring property, Anthony Mitchell, and said he’d need to use his house in order to gain a 'tactical advantage' over the neighbor’s residence. Mitchell reportedly made it clear that he did not want to get involved in the probe and told Worley he would not be able to offer assistance. According to the lawsuit, Officer David Cawthorn, Sgt. Michael Waller and Worley all then "conspired among themselves to force Anthony Mitchell out of his residence and to occupy his home for their own use."

“It was determined to move to 367 Eveningside and attempt to contact Mitchell. If Mitchell answered the door he would be asked to leave. If he refused to leave he would be arrested for Obstructing a Police Officer. If Mitchell refused to answer the door, force entry would be made and Mitchell would be arrested,” the report determined.


http://rt.com/usa/nevada-third-amendment-lawsuit-710/

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
9. This can happen only because there are no consequences to the police for
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jul 2013

breaking the law or violating anyone's rights in the name of the law.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
10. Interesting
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jul 2013

how rapidly Mr. Law escalates when this young person refuses to roll down his window.

If you think LEO don't profile at DUI checkpoints, consider this: I've driven through at least three checkpoints since I've turned 50, and I've gotten waved through every time. I am a white, grey-haired old lady, and I apparently don't hit on their "gotta be drinking or drugging" profile. I could be carrying massive quantities of drugs, and they won't even look at me twice.

(Disclaimer for the NSA: I don't do drugs or alcohol, boys. I don't carry any contraband in my car. I was just hypothesizing...)

abq e streeter

(7,658 posts)
20. Oh c'mon..I personally haven't been subjected to an illegal search in Tennessee
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

since..... oh yeah, the last time I was there .(Which WILL be the last time...never again).Sept of last year. 61 year old white male, but out of state plates and ...the HORROR...liberal (including DU) bumper stickers. FULL search with the State Trooper's drug sniffing dog...under the hood, trunk,windows rolled down, all 4 wheel wells, and then a SECOND circuit around all those locations before grudgingly letting me go.
If I'd been black or brown, or had not completely kissed his ass , I can only guess what might have happened.

abq e streeter

(7,658 posts)
33. I had seriously thought of removing them before that trip
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

But decided I was not going to be intimidated by any southern rednecks who might "object". But yeah, if I never go through the south again (and this wasn't even the deep south, just Arkansas, Tennessee and Virginia) it'll be fine with me, although I do like Memphis, but oh well, there are other parts of the country to visit without this police state bullshit (so far anyway).

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. Just behaving as he's been trained to in "enemy territory."
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jul 2013

Something like 90% of the police recruited in recent years are former military police or combat veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. That trooper should feel right at home assuming that position in an up-armored HUMVEE.

It's become a very thin line between combat and policing, and the boundaries are crumbling.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. But, hey, anything to keep us safe from a threat
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jul 2013

about which the only information we receive is heavily redacted and filtered through the agencies "protecting" us.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
44. To be fair tho...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jul 2013

These ex-military police - gotta figure they're not college grads (of course, there will be exceptions). They're folks that got out of the military with little training but to carry weapons and intimidate. What's the job market for those kinds of skills? It's either law enforcement - or some mercenary contractor. I'm not defending them - just recognizing that in this "economy" where good wages have been eliminated by all the fabulous "trade agreements" and offshoring our public servants have "provided" for us, guvamint services likely pay the best wages - altho that's slowly changing as conservatives privatize everything, little by little.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
49. I have little animosity toward veterans of our military ventures
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jul 2013

For the most part, they signed up in good faith to protect the nation. My beef is with those who callously misuse our military men and women by sending them off on ultimately counter-productive campaigns that have nothing to do with the security of our country and everything to do with protecting corporate interests. I also take issue with those citizens of the United States that cheer on this bullshit.

The men and women of the United States Armed Forces volunteer to risk their lives so that we don't have to. The very least they should expect in return is that we won't allow them to be sent off to fight meaningless conflicts that serve only to line the pockets of contractors and exploitative multinationals.

The fact that veterans are funneled into domestic law enforcement is a symptom of the problem. The problem itself is that United States citizens have become so complacent as to allow our veterans to be ignored when they come home and to allow our police forces to behave like occupying armies.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
53. I couldn't agree more with your summation.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jul 2013

Twelve years of war in Afghanistan - and in the end it WASN'T all that warring that did bin Laden in! Basically, at best we've made things a bit more stable for the poppy farmers. So I guess we could say this war DOES benefit U.S. citizens addicted to Heroin.

 

sgsmith

(398 posts)
25. Just what is the officer doing at the 3:15 (+/-) mark?
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jul 2013

He starts walking around the drivers door and bends down, says "good boy" to the dog, and there's a thump. Plant drug scent?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
55. He led the dog to get up on the hood.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013

Possibly to smell the fresh air vents on the car, possibly just to fuck up his hood with the dog claws as punishment for daring not to bend over and be an obedient, cowed, subservient citizen.

Alkene

(752 posts)
28. The new normal.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jul 2013

And not just in Tennessee.

You might think twice about testing your constitutional rights here in Seattle, what with the "pattern of excessive force" as determined by the DOJ.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
56. It is scary shit.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013

On the one hand I feel that if I am ever in that situation, I need to stand up for my rights, but there is a palpable us vs. them vibe from SPD, and you can get seriously fucked up by them.

Alkene

(752 posts)
64. From ACLU website: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jul 2013

YOUR RIGHTS
- You have the right to remain silent. If you wish to exercise that right, say so out loud.
- You have the right to refuse to consent to a search of yourself, your car or your home.
- If you are not under arrest, you have the right to calmly leave. (me: Really? Good luck with that)
- You have the right to a lawyer if you are arrested. Ask for one immediately.
- Regardless of your immigration or citizenship status, you have constitutional rights.

Of course the above assumes that you won't be punched in the face, had your head stomped on and/or gunned down before the SPD lies about the encounter.

The responsibilities part (following) seems fairly sensible however:

YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES
- Do stay calm and be polite.
- Do not interfere with or obstruct the police.
- Do not lie or give false documents.
- Do prepare yourself and your family in case you are arrested.
- Do remember the details of the encounter.
- Do file a written complaint or call your local ACLU if you feel your rights have been violated.

http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-immigrants-rights-racial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
32. Come On. The guy with the video could have a pole dancing girlfriend.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:23 PM
Jul 2013

On other thing. Who didn't know that this was being done for years anyway. Have you been living under a rock? If it wasn't legal they wouldn't do it.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
41. The "everyone knows it goes on" line is ridiculous.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jul 2013

As the new age of filming police is getting into swing. Technology is making it "without a doubt" proven. Soon more and more Americans will be getting dash cams and as we do more and more evidence to support unjust police behavior will emerge.
Empirical evidence requires a body of work to stand up to criticism.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
63. I wouldn't be surprised if dash cams become illegal once they
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jul 2013

were popular. Illegal for us, not the police.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
36. Disgusting.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jul 2013

Each officer's face should be plastered on a Billboard loudly proclaiming them Traitors of the Constitution and they should be fired with pension revoked.

Mojo Electro

(362 posts)
38. Bravo for setting the camera to record.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jul 2013

More people need to do this. I hope I have the presence of mind to do likewise if I get pulled over.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
52. I had a similiar incident happen to me in Key West in February
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jul 2013

It was not a checkpoint, but very similar results. All over tinted glass on my car. Funny how I drove 2800 miles(round trip), and did not get pulled over once for tinted glass. I broke no laws, and was pulled over and harassed for 1/2 hour. It astounds me how these assholes think they can stretch the law and get by with it. Did you notice this guys voice, trying to intimidate the driver.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
54. Makes ya proud to be a guilty-until-proven-innocent Amurkin.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013

We should all be good Germans and worship the heroes protecting the freedoms of our homeland, LOL.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
57. Scope out your passenger side door handle.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jul 2013

In both my vehicles, my cell phone fits perfectly, camera side out, so it films myself and the drivers door window, if I drop it into the passenger door handle.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
66. Recording this appears to be legal in Tennessee, by the way.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:00 AM
Jul 2013

The recording of this appears to be legal--unlike the police behavior recorded.

http://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-guide/state-state-guide/tennessee

Next step, find a good lawyer.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
67. Here's the third comment on YouTube when I checked:
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:38 AM
Jul 2013
This kids a loser and needs to get a life instead of trying to get attention by playing the victim card this is the same exact shit Edward snowden is crying go live in Cuba and see how the police treat you there

There's a word I'm trying to think of right now that applies to these types of people. It's...um...oh that's right: AUTHORITARIAN!

J.J.Curry

(4 posts)
68. Keep it up RandiFan1290
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:17 AM
Jul 2013

This is one of the best search violations i've seen caught on film, thank you for standing up for our rights and catching these a holes in action, thank you!!

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