TYT: NSA Spying Programs are illegal - Why Obama and Bush Should be Arrested With Snowden

[limpyhobbler]

[99th_Monkey]

1. Holy! Moly! Cenk goes there!!!

I applaud his courage in saying this publicly, fully knowing
-- just like Snowden knew -- the risk he's taking in saying
this.

[iamthebandfanman]

3. lol...

what??

[HooptieWagon]

2. Bush definately. Obama cannot be arrested.

I believe he has immunity from arrest while in office. However, Congress needs to get off their fucking lazy asses and take a close look at these NSA programs. If it is found Obama has broken the law, he should be impeached. He can be arrested after he leaves office, if warranted.

[Civilization2]

4. Cenk is absolutely correct,. This is an excellent segment EVERYONE should view this!

It seems that power indeed does corrupt,. this NSA spy sht is proof that given a foot they take a yard.

Enough defending the indefensible,. you people that "support the govt'" need to watch this video and think about reality a tad more.

[KoKo]

5. Good to see a Media Person stand up for us....

even if they have to be heard outside the MSM!

K&R!

[cantbeserious]

6. Cenk Just Lost Half His DU Audience

eom

[limpyhobbler]

9. People turned off by this probably aren't watching him to begin with.

We all love our echo chambers I guess.

[cantbeserious]

7. From The NY Times Article

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/28/opinion/the-criminal-nsa.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Op-Ed Contributors
The Criminal N.S.A.
By JENNIFER STISA GRANICK and CHRISTOPHER JON SPRIGMAN
Published: June 27, 2013

Snip ...

The Fourth Amendment obliges the government to demonstrate probable cause before conducting invasive surveillance. There is simply no precedent under the Constitution for the government’s seizing such vast amounts of revealing data on innocent Americans’ communications.

The government has made a mockery of that protection by relying on select Supreme Court cases, decided before the era of the public Internet and cellphones, to argue that citizens have no expectation of privacy in either phone metadata or in e-mails or other private electronic messages that it stores with third parties.

This hairsplitting is inimical to privacy and contrary to what at least five justices ruled just last year in a case called United States v. Jones. One of the most conservative justices on the Court, Samuel A. Alito Jr., wrote that where even public information about individuals is monitored over the long term, at some point, government crosses a line and must comply with the protections of the Fourth Amendment. That principle is, if anything, even more true for Americans’ sensitive nonpublic information like phone metadata and social networking activity.

We may never know all the details of the mass surveillance programs, but we know this: The administration has justified them through abuse of language, intentional evasion of statutory protections, secret, unreviewable investigative procedures and constitutional arguments that make a mockery of the government’s professed concern with protecting Americans’ privacy. It’s time to call the N.S.A.’s mass surveillance programs what they are: criminal.

[MNBrewer]

15. ^^^ THIS

[indepat]

8. But, but, but, the Constitution is just a piece of paper and junior treated it as such and much

of junior's vision continues to be implemented.

[blackspade]

10. Great commentary

[DeSwiss]

11. K&R

[center]Of course arresting Bush and/or Obama changes very little. They, like the Supremes and the Congress, were chosen by others to lead us. They're the interchangeable parts of a vast wealth-interconnected-hierarchically-operated system.

It has no leader, no institutions, no buildings, no formal structure or design that may be firmly identified or attacked. It is amorphous. Intangible, yet everywhere.

It is an idea. A belief.

It's currency is derived from pieces of paper. Today, existing primarily as pixels/electrons on computer screens.

It won't stop what it does, until you stop believing in it.

Therein lies it power......

[/center]

[limpyhobbler]

17. sweet graphic nt

[JDPriestly]

12. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The audacity of these folks. The arrogance. The hubris.

Horrors!

What next?

Will they put listening devices in our bedrooms?

[jjewell]

13. Way to go, Cenk!

It's nice to see people finally waking up as to what's really going on in this country.

BTW, I'm not entirely sure about the constitutionality of the FISA Court itself or any "secret court",
since the constitutionality of such has never been tested and adjudicated by the SCOTUS.

[MNBrewer]

14. Yep.

absolutely true.

[NoMoreWarNow]

16. Awesome rant

Nobody does outrage like Cenk. And it is outrageous.