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Doctor Sanjay Gupta Publicly Apologizes For Being SO WRONG About Medical Marijuana (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Aug 2013 OP
About damned time... I hope his colleagues will finally start pulling their head out of their.... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #1
Media Doctor...WRONG????!!! Ikonoklast Aug 2013 #2
He is not just a "media doctor". I write for a website - kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #15
You read far more into my comment than is actually there. Ikonoklast Aug 2013 #23
I Wonder How Much Big Pharma Has To Do With Trying To Discredit MJ?...... global1 Aug 2013 #3
To answer your question- Quite a lot WhoIsNumberNone Aug 2013 #6
exactly. The problem is the mj has many active compounds that are beneficial NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #8
Speaking about that patent...... SCVDem Aug 2013 #20
I'd bet this is much more about big prison operators than the pharma companies. lark Aug 2013 #18
Just why is the other guest so incised about people getting "loaded"? Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #4
His treatment centers make money off of treating kids busted by their parents for using this Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #9
Oh dear, that explains it Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #10
Not to forget all those parolees sent to HIS REHABILITATION CLINIC by the courts Kip Humphrey Aug 2013 #25
Puritanism... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #22
K&R! I kept hoping someone would state the obvious, that weed is more readily available to Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #5
Good for him.. and shame on the DEA for being evil about mj all these years NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #7
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Well, he was Michael Jacksons doctor? Fuddnik Aug 2013 #16
One of the things which I have found curious... Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #13
The answer is simple. SCVDem Aug 2013 #21
gupta has always been an idiot.. frylock Aug 2013 #14
If he had any credibility caballojm Aug 2013 #17
I agree with the other guy PatrynXX Aug 2013 #19
Gupta is the Rivera of "Medical Infotainment" stlsaxman Aug 2013 #24
Something else Govts; and Doctors got wrong all these years zebonaut Aug 2013 #26
Wolf Blitzer is an equal idiot SHRED Aug 2013 #27

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
1. About damned time... I hope his colleagues will finally start pulling their head out of their....
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 09:59 AM
Aug 2013

and read the actual medical literature--not the DEA propaganda.

Truth in advertising... I DON'T use... but I wouldn't hesitate if I needed it for some condition it had been found overwhelmingly beneficial in treating.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
2. Media Doctor...WRONG????!!!
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:17 AM
Aug 2013

I'd trust that guy to be my doctor less than I'd trust on of my cats to be the pilot on my next flight.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
15. He is not just a "media doctor". I write for a website -
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:30 AM
Aug 2013

does that make ME a "media doctor", too, and therefore automatically stupid and wrong???

Do kindly check out his medical background and credentials.

Some of us really like educating the general public. Doesn't mean we're stupid or incompetent.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
23. You read far more into my comment than is actually there.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:31 PM
Aug 2013

Public opinion is swaying, Dr. Sanjay Gupta is keeping himself relevant. He's always been a 'staus quo' type, now that things are changing, he is, too.

Look at what publicity "swallowing his pride" was worth.

Number one post on a dozen internet aggregation sites, syndicated news bites, etc. He couldn't care less about MJ legalization either way. He likes his job is all.

Never questioned his intelligence or credentials, just his motives.

I'll shut up and go back to being an ignorant peon, and never criticize my betters again, after all, he's a doctor and therefore not to be questioned.

global1

(25,237 posts)
3. I Wonder How Much Big Pharma Has To Do With Trying To Discredit MJ?......
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:24 AM
Aug 2013

Thinking about it - they can't patent it in any major way and it cuts into their profits on pain and perhaps anxiety relieving drugs. So if Big Pharma thinks it will lose money if MJ becomes too respected - I can see where they would lobby against it and maybe even support studies that have discredited it over the years.

This thought struck me as I listened this morning to Gupta.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
6. To answer your question- Quite a lot
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:31 AM
Aug 2013

But you're wrong about the patent. They've been working on synthesizing it for at least the last couple of years. Rest assured when they succeed it will be fast tracked through the FDA approval process. Just imagine- all the beneficial effects of marijuana (plus a few new side effects, and a probable link to cancer discovered 10 or 15 years down the road) without that pesky high- and all for only $60 a pill!

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
8. exactly. The problem is the mj has many active compounds that are beneficial
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:34 AM
Aug 2013

and they are trying to just add one or two in a pill and it's not the same.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. Speaking about that patent......
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

The U.S. Patent Office issued patent #6630507 to the U.S.Health and Human Services filed on 2/2/2001. The patent lists the use of certain cannabinoids found within the cannabis sativa plant as useful in certain neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and HIV dementia.

Since cannabis sativa (marijuana) contains compounds recognized and endorsed by an agency of the U.S. government why is it that marijuana remains on the Federal Schedule One list of drugs? The issuance of patent #6630507 is a direct contradiction of the governments own definition for classification of a Schedule 1 drug.


http://uspatent6630507.com/

No medical uses my ass!

lark

(23,083 posts)
18. I'd bet this is much more about big prison operators than the pharma companies.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 12:55 PM
Aug 2013

Who profits the most from incarceration, who gives tons of money to pols to make sure we continue jailing anyone and everyone who isn't part of the 1%? Big Prison is who. Don't know the names of the companies, haven't researched it that much, but they are the ones who really profit from all these generally otherwise law abiding citizens. Well, they and the service industry because that's the only place people with records can work. Plus = real bonus here - they can also keep these folks from voting. Can you see anything about this that the Repugs wouldn't absolutely adore?

Cronus Protagonist

(15,574 posts)
4. Just why is the other guest so incised about people getting "loaded"?
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:30 AM
Aug 2013

It seems to me that people getting high is one of the major fruits that life has to offer. His Presbyterian personal concerns about ensuring that others ought not to enjoy ingesting the plant and have fun in life should not be public policy. What an ass he is.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
9. His treatment centers make money off of treating kids busted by their parents for using this
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:36 AM
Aug 2013

terrible drug. If it was legalized and more people found out that it isn't the big, bad bogeymen he makes it out to be, he might lose money!

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
25. Not to forget all those parolees sent to HIS REHABILITATION CLINIC by the courts
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:55 PM
Aug 2013

"I agree... Just don't make it legal!"

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
5. K&R! I kept hoping someone would state the obvious, that weed is more readily available to
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:31 AM
Aug 2013

kids than alcohol right now. They ignore the fact that everyone who wants to try pot can do so, albeit illegally. If it was legal and taxed, it would kill the black market, save tons of money with law enforcement, Courts, and prisons, and kids would have the same difficulty buying it as alcohol. They just ignored the fact that it is already so widespread.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
7. Good for him.. and shame on the DEA for being evil about mj all these years
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 10:33 AM
Aug 2013

not to mention the insane war on drugs overall.

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Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
13. One of the things which I have found curious...
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
Aug 2013

...is; how the people who grew up during a period where marijuana wasn't so stigmatized (the 60s and 70s). When it was actually widely accepted as a good thing. Could have contributed to, or even allowed, the gradual hyper-criminalization of something so non-threatening.
We knew it was bullshit and still said nothing, or at least talked softly. "My words but a whisper, you're deafness a shout" I guess.

And yeah I know it about the money stupid. Which , if you think about it, is proof the marijuana should be available for recreational use. If you are so obsessively driven to make company profits that you lie, bribe, suppress medical evidence, escalate enforcement responses from simply oppressive to seal-team envy levels, and open state endorsed slave factories and farms; You seriously need a way to mellow out.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. The answer is simple.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:21 PM
Aug 2013

Whites didn't go to jail and nobody cared what happened to people of color.

Sound about right?

caballojm

(271 posts)
17. If he had any credibility
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 12:49 PM
Aug 2013

he lost it years ago. He's a circus sideshow act now. He should be required to be played into any TV segment with accompanying big top Calliope music.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
19. I agree with the other guy
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

o_O

not entirely sure what Morgan and Gupta found off kilter there. He's for the ability to make it not a crime. He's using the wrong wording. ie Prescription only. Tobacco is not prescription only. He used a key phrase that made sense. a controlled substance. I'm on a controlled substance although it's not a narcotic even though it's regulated as one. Ritalin. Is illegal without a script. Thats what he's saying and I totally agree with him. To put it in english. Make it so it's not Over The Counter! Fairly sure my Ritalin is far more harmful than weed. I carries a black box warning (sudden death) although I'd rather take weed in some form other than smoking it. have enough breathing problems. Vicodin is alot like Ritalin. Concerta? damn near had a fucking heart attack on that shit.

Hey Absinth is now legal in the states. not the real stuff like 1910 ingrediants but close enough. Luvox.. (for OCD) probably messed me up forever. Dr tells me basically the crystals in my ears need reseting because of it. So sometimes (and I've basically ordered them now.. ) when I miss one of my Zoloft pills I can't stand up straight. Quiting cold turkey (they forced me to do this) cost me a $300 tv. well cost my dad a $300 tv but in my head I knocked it over. and wasn't used to it. If I move my eyes to the side and move my head I can hear the dizzy in my head. Anyone else been on Luvox have this problem?? Zoloft mimicked it and calmed it down in high doses. Lexapro doesn't do anything in that area. ALthough it stops me from bouncing off the walls with a knife. I just don't understand why those two up above couldn't figure that out and made a headline about it. Ritalin or say Morphine (the latter is a narcotic ) is illegal. except with a script. I've seen Miley smoke her weed. She might be abusing it some but she has a rapid heartbeat. So I understand why she takes it. It likely slows it down. End of story. But because people slam her about it she sings about it. Just addiction wise. Luvox was a killer for me and Weed has a 9 %? o_O Quit wasting out tax dollars please... and actually fund Mental health etc.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
24. Gupta is the Rivera of "Medical Infotainment"
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:21 PM
Aug 2013

I'm glad he's doing this, but unfortunately he's so tainted as a "journalist" it's not gonna make much difference whatever he says.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
26. Something else Govts; and Doctors got wrong all these years
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:32 PM
Aug 2013

They said stress causes ulcers. Wrong

They said eating fat makes you fat. Wrong

They said pot was bad. Wrong

If only Monsanto owed a patent on Pot ; it would be on every grocery shelf

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
27. Wolf Blitzer is an equal idiot
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:44 AM
Aug 2013

After Sanjay finally shared some facts about grass Wolf summarized Gupta's fact sharing with..."Powerful, powerful words from the Doctor".

So let me get this straight...basic and well known truths about MJ are now somehow "powerful"?

Wow.
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