China Syndrome at Fukushima, Melted Cores Moved Into the Earth, Japan Gov't in Chaos

[DeSwiss]

MsMilkytheclown1·Published on Aug 10, 2013

Very likely some of Fukushima's melted cores have moved into the earth — "It's beyond containment right now"

Paul Gunter director of the reactor oversight project at Beyond Nuclear: Indications are right now that the reactor structures themselves have been breached.

It's very likely that some of the radioactive material — the melted cores — have moved into the earth.

So it's beyond containment right now.

I think that's the tragedy that we see unfolding as Fukushima's radioactive water crisis is only beginning.

http://tinyurl.com/l4ygapr

[Journeyman]

1. And if they haven't, as the water rises within the compound, will it destabilize the structures?…

Will it make the earth beneath the reactors a swamp, a quagmire subject to liquefaction when the next slight temblor strikes? Or will we find that the most viable act is to release the water into the sea?

It seems we've found our 21st century Gordian Knot. Unfortunately, it appears there's no Alexander to help cut our way out.

[L0oniX]

24. I'd like to hear some reasons that this will not destroy much of the Pacific and most of Japan.

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Seems to me that those melted cores are going to continue moving down and to spread out ...forever. I wouldn't want to eat fish from anywhere near Japan at this point. I suppose someone will come up with what is a reasonable amount of radioactivity in the food we might be eating.

[awoke_in_2003]

30. I think you mean Pacific. nt

[jtuck004]

2. Reading these reports since the accident it would appear that it's been beyond containment for some

time, perhaps more than a year?

Interesting. How do you stop something that hot from underneath, in the ground, which is likely sinking ever so slowly through the soil? And, oh yeah, it's radioactive as shit, so you have to send burrowing robots after it, because humans would just die. And that's an interesting issue, since such robots don't exist, at least not designed for this task, and current ones may not be that adaptable. Even robots that will go in a work on the building are "in development", and this is an order of magnitude more complex, I am guessing.

[Downwinder]

3. If they got to the core what tools are available to handle it?

[jtuck004]

4. From my reading, I'm not seeing much. The GE claim was that the core had never been

breached in that design, so there is no record of anything to point to, afaik.

If it burned through that and is now in the ground we are looking at the same kinds of stuff that, perhaps, they use in petroleum geology, frac'ing sorts of stuff, injection of a sort of concrete, or soil stabilizers. But that is some hot and lethal stuff, surrounded by dirt, which is shielding it somewhat, so as you removed that, it's hard to tell what will happen. A lot of the stuff we have now presumes you can work closer than I think they will be able to.

[Downwinder]

5. How do you capture a star?

Should have been a Star Trek episode on that.

[jtuck004]

7. Yeah, that seems pretty close. n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

16. Sounds like a time travel future movie

... preventing the horror of radio-active annihilation of the planet (model for this starting with Star Trek 2, with George and Gracie ... "There be whales, captain!&quot

Trouble is, we are living in the middle of this horror and the time for transparency is long past. How strange that Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the re-building of Japan led to this unholy relationship with the industry.

Jeebus...

[JohnyCanuck]

6. TEPCO knew about water flow two years ago (NHK video report)

Summary:

A Tepco spokesperson says the company has known for the past 2 years that a massive amount of groundwater was flowing beneath the Fukushima power plant.

Masayuki Ono said on Friday that TEPCO experts estimated hundreds of tons of the water could reach the ocean daily.

Ono said the estimate was based on rough records of groundwater that TEPCO workers had collected.

Until last month, TEPCO officials had denied the possibility that contaminated groundwater was leaking into the ocean.

Ono said he is unable to explain why it took two years to disclose this fact. (My emphasis /JC)

Aug. 10, 2013 - Updated 07:48 UTC

It's nor really that hard to explain Ono; in English it's called a coverup.

video at NHK web site: http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20130810_99.html

[leveymg]

9. The explanation is simple: Ignore it, and the media will lose interest and go away.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said for containing tons of enriched uranium fuel cores.

[snappyturtle]

8. K&R nt

[Civilization2]

10. Like the China Syndrome, only instead of melting through to China this core will burn to England!

Nasty mess this nuke-plant has made.

Time to attempt safe decommissioning of the more than a hundred plants we have here in america.

[arely staircase]

29. wouldn't the nuclear material stop at the Earth's core

since that is the direction that gravity pulls things.

[Civilization2]

31. Not sure anyone could tell you what would actually happen,.

long before gravity would stop pulling center-wise, many stranger forces would be invoked, mantle convection, etc. long before the actual core was reached the crazy pressure in the mantle would ?

Anyway, it was a joke based on the original posts reference to;

"The China syndrome (loss-of-coolant accident) is a fictional nuclear reactor operations accident characterized by the severe meltdown of the core components of the reactor, which then burn through the containment vessel and the housing building, then notionally through the crust and body of the Earth until reaching the other side, which in the United States is jokingly referred to as being China." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Syndrome_(nuclear_meltdown)#China_Syndrome

[arely staircase]

32. ah. gotcha bt

[Sand Wind]

11. RT, Russian TV, is full of shit, and they hate every single American ally

They found the most extremist and un-factual description of the situation and look almost happy to make it a report.

Just can't believe why I find post on this swindlers on DU, why not FalseNews, as you are at it, or why don't you call Bagdad Bob to ear his opinion about Fukushima ?

[CHOCOLATMIMOSA]

12. Well how to you explain the TEPCO admission cited above?

If TEPCO admits the leak, I'd say that's worth considering as fact.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20130810_99.html

[Sand Wind]

13. How do you go from that to

How do you go from that to "China Syndrome at Fukushima, Melted Cores Moved Into the Earth, Japan Gov't in Chaos"....?

The only middle term is Russian TV....who is always full of shit.

[another_liberal]

25. Really?

I have found that Russia Today has many news stories right when American news media has them completely wrong, at least they do until it is no longer possible to gloss over the truth. The same can be said for the inaccurate coverage often provided by the media of our closest allies, such as Israel.

[Purveyor]

26. Indeed! +1 eom

[sulphurdunn]

27. Maybe American news should

cover this. You think? Russian TV is irrelevant. Either the reactor cores of these plants have melted through their containment vessels or they have not. They are contaminating ground and sea water or they are not. The disaster can be remedied or it cannot. It is a testament to how corrupt corporate power and government have become that after two years these questions remain debatable.

[spike91nz]

14. my experience

I have compared RT with outer outlets regarding the Fukushima disaster since its beginning and it has consistently been ahead of the curve in its reportage of the factual conditions of the situation. Certainly more in depth reportage than the mainstream US media. Perhaps you could provide specific examples where they have misled us on the conditions.

[cantbeserious]

15. Seems There Is A Grinding Axe With Respect To RTV - What Might That Be

eom

[MrMickeysMom]

17. OH... so this never happened at all?

Super carrot stroking going on in this thread, there.... unless you "enlighten" us blank, empty slates, SW...

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

20. The Japanese Government Has Declared this a NEW EMERGENCY

Do they hate themselves, too?

The real question is; why isn't there a global response to this ONGOING CRISIS?

[stonecutter357]

21. shill

UMADTHO!

[L0oniX]

22. I suggest that you use proper sentence/word structure or your going to be labled as a freeper. n/t

[jtuck004]

28. Or maybe seen as human wormwood.

Thank you for the explanation below, btw.

[Civilization2]

33. USA number 1! Trust only our nationalism,. all other countries are run by little girls.

Thanks for the input Borat.

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world all other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium!
Other countries have inferior potassium.
...

[Dustlawyer]

18. At the rate we are poisoning our environment and altering the climate we will not last another 200

years! The oceans will be dead and massive starvation to follow! Sounds too far out there to be real, but with our ever increasing appetite for "growth" and "profits" we are doomed unless we can change our ways around the world quickly! I just don't see it happening.

[closeupready]

19. I'm leaning towards thinking heightened inspections of

seafood and agricultural products from Japan (like rice or soy products, seaweed, etc.) for radioactive poisoning.

Either that, or maybe I need to treat Japanese products and seafood like I have been doing with food products from China - back on the shelf you go!

[L0oniX]

23. Revelation 8:10 a third of the waters will become bitter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28star%29

Alternative interpretations

A number of Bible scholars consider the term Wormwood to be a purely symbolic representation of the bitterness that will fill the earth during troubled times, noting that the plant for which Wormwood is named, Artemisia absinthium, or Mugwort, Artemisia vulgaris, is a known Biblical metaphor for things that are unpalatably bitter.[10][11]

One interesting theory is that nuclear weaponry could be called wormwood. For example: Ukrainian synonymy 'wormwood'. They do poison the water where they are detonated, thus explaining the correlation. Some[12] even point to the Chernobyl disaster as a possible fulfillment of this prophecy, as the name Chernobyl is said to translate to "wormwood."[13]