Wonder why you haven't seen much of Jesse Ventura on TV lately?...

[Indi Guy]

[NYC_SKP]

1. How about you just tell us why instead of making us watch it?

[silverweb]

3. +1

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I have no time or patience for mystery videos, either.

Love that trash button.

[Civilization2]

10. he speaks a lot of truth on many issues,. (you have to watch it I don't get paid to sum up)

the other thing you will learn watching is that Piers Morgan is an establishment tool, but everyone knows that,. .

[NYC_SKP]

12. I like Jesse Ventura.

I just think that poster's would be kind to take the effort to post a sentence or two along with the video clip.

[Civilization2]

13. sure,. but a lot is covered, from first amendment, to 9/11, to gitmo, to citizens united,. etc.

and damn Piers Morgan is a tool.

[MrMickeysMom]

29. Piers Morgan was part of that phone hacking scandal in the UK...

That man IS a real jaggoff.

[heaven05]

35. xfactor

is where he should have stayed. Most highly paid 'talking heads' are establishment tools or they wouldn't be highly paid.

[Indi Guy]

40. OK, here are a couple lines to go with my OP...

I think that Jesse is not only a brave American, but also an extremely skilled debater. It's not every day that the MSM is cornered & shown for what it really is, i.e., an arm of the propaganda machine.

[NYC_SKP]

41. I like the man. Challenges the status quo, ran on the Reform Party ticket, IIRC.

What I mean by a couple of lines is a couple of lines IN the OP to describe what is discussed in the video.

This kindness helps people who may have low bandwidth and have to wait for things to load.

Presumably, those who post a video have also watched it and could write a little something about it as a courtesy.

IE:

Watch Jesse Ventura stand his ground with Piers Morgan in discussing why we go to war, corruption of our government officials, and the need to investigate 9-11.

See?

[Indi Guy]

42. I see what you mean...

...and I'll keep that in mind the next time I post here.

[drynberg]

33. 2nded Cool

[MrMickeysMom]

28. I'd invest in the time to watch it...

But, if you want Reader's Digest a la MMM, he stood up to Piers mainstream media stance on the reasons we have gone to war. They were not off the reservation, and when confronted about that, the audience (asked) agreed.

You really see this, but don't count on my eyes!

[Indi Guy]

39. Well,...

...seeing as this is the Video & Multimedia Forum -- I thought it appropriate to post a video, rather than to explain.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Because he's finally been committed?

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. !!!

[rdharma]

5. Because he's busy in his new roll in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show II"?

[Civilization2]

11. Don't knock the Scullet,. when my hair goes I may rock one as well,. but I do lov cheese!

[rdharma]

14. So that's what that hair style is called!

Thanks! I've never heard that.

[bbgrunt]

6. truthtellers are either marginalized or murdered. be well Jesse.

[DeSwiss]

15. +1000

- And they leave the heavy lifting to finish the job to the ignorant sheeple on whose behalf he's become marginalized. As they whistle past the graveyard......

They kept trying to tell us. Ike. Then JFK. And Senators Frank Church and Daniel Inouye. Then the revelations seemed to just stop. Maybe they were in control now. It all sounds so absurd, doesn't it? No one wants to even consider it. And if you repeat it, you're just another crazy CT. That's the beauty of it. It's a self-correcting system of oversight integrity which relies principally upon its victims to protect its existence through their own ignorance and incredulity. And through the constant use of ridicule against those able to see things more objectively and realistically, they maintain a consistent hard outer shell made of incredulous, unknowing people. Because it is understood in our society that being accused of being stupid is the one thing an truly ignorant person hates to be accused of the most.

[snappyturtle]

21. It's congnitive dissonance and we have a lot of it today. nt

[DeSwiss]

25. Actually, it's the lack of ''cognitive dissonance'' that's the problem.

Cognitive dissonance is the point when the paradigm is questioned. When it makes no sense and we say so. When it is not taken as fact. And all its contradictory aspects become apparent to us, and it causes a ''dissonance'' in reality. We know something ain't right.

It is doublethink: ''The holding of two contradictory ideas and/or opposing beliefs and believing them both, that is our problem. You know:

[center]Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
A corporation is a person[/center]

The idea of a corporate-person makes no sense at all, in nature. It's a totally man-made form of cognitive dissonance; one which we accept as an everyday fact.

- And that's what's gotten us where we are today.....

[snappyturtle]

34. "Doublethink" is a coping mechanism for the dissonance.

Its use makes us comfortable with the conflicting point....we turn
the conflict into something acceptable. I think it can be dangerous
and a sign of laziness. After all, knowledge takes some effort so isn't
it just easier to 'go along'....in time, things will work out?! Propaganda
uses this tool.

For example: We're being told that for the sake of security we must
give up privacy as we've known it to be: that privacy is a component of
personal security. That's a difficult concept for
many of us to accept. So, a man we trust, the President, tells
us it's true.....over, and over. Will this propaganda of TPTB work? Time will
tell. It's dangerous because acceptance erodes the Constitution and
creates a doorway to future losses.

Cognitive dissonance is all around us: the militarization of police depts.,
the LIHOP comment of Ventura caused great dissonance with Piers. Do
we allow TPTB to 'tweak' our dearly held tenants, privacy for example,
or do we fight back? Or do we sit back and allow it? Keep in mind Inouye's
admonition in the posted video up thread.

[Indi Guy]

49. Well said,...

...and the greatest irony probable lies in the fact that those who eagerly buy into the propaganda often arrogantly dismiss dissenters as being laughably ignorant.

[DeSwiss]

52. So simple, even an elitist (who really aren't that bright) can do it.....

...and they've run this scam for so long and so well, we now call it '' reality.''

[zeemike]

7. Or because he embarrassed the host?

When he asked the audience how many thought he was a conspiracy theroist?...and only one raised his hand.

The problem is perception, and they want to keep the perception that every thing is just as they say it is.

[Indi Guy]

69. ...and that perception is strengthened by the "appearance" of authority -

-as represented by a well spoken, well dressed & groomed host sitting behind a desk asking the questions.

[azbillyboy]

8. Sorry to offend the nelly naysayers...

......but I loved this clip! What exactly did he say that WASN'T spot on?????

[MrMickeysMom]

30. What exactly did he say not spot on? ... indeed... nothing...

This means that one must actually look to assess.

I love DeSwiss's explanation of this.

[Snake Plissken]

9. He reminds me of the dude on the 100 Dollar Bill

Ben Franklin should have been a wrestler

[rpannier]

23. And its high time you realized it

How can your 48 posts possibly be treated seriously next to a guy with 30,000 posts, where

2000 of them are K&R (nothing else)
1857 n/t (nothing else)
1932 Agree (followed by some icon showing approval)
11632 are cut and paste stories that someone else wrote
10000 of the are some two to five word reply agreeing or disagreeing with the poster while offering no substantive response - just a bumper sticker slogan
67 are The ______ Won the (insert sporting event championship/game)
997 are some snide comment about the character of the OP or the person they disagree with
100 Youtube clips

See how important it is to have so many posts????

[MrMickeysMom]

31. I have to ask, rpannier...

Just where exactly does that last one of yours fall?

[rpannier]

44. Some of 7

But mine is just a snide comment

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. Brought up the Aug 6th PDB and speculated they LIHOP...

Pierce Morgan, of course, tried to shut that down and shut him up.

Then claimed he was a crackpot.

The audience disagreed.

Let's face it. If the Bush Administration really was convinced that the threat from the War on Terror was so vital, why did Bush in a State of the Union claim a major priority was to investigate steroid use in SPORTS????

[GreenStormCloud]

18. No, I haven't wondered. Because I don't care. N/T

[Carnage251]

19. Why?

[snappyturtle]

20. I voted for him. I thought he was the best candidate.

Love this interview too....good to hear him again.

[Indi Guy]

61. Most people forget that he was...

...governor of a state with a population of about 5,000,000; and since was a fellow at Harvard. Prior to becoming a wrestler he was a Navy SEAL.

[snappyturtle]

62. He's a bit too bizarre today for most people, I think, but

he has some valid viewpoints...9/11 being one.

[Indi Guy]

63. Yeah...

...It's not only conservatives who contemptuously disregard those who don't fall into certain categories. Some "liberals" need to re-examine their degree of openness.

[Yooperman]

22. In my life I have learned most people don't want to know the truth....

I really respect Jesse.... he tells it like it is and maybe he isn't 100% correct but dang he makes great points and shows that there is alot more to the truth than what the elite want us to know.

My humble opinion.

YM

[Bigredhunk]

24. He Pissed Me Off Years Ago (10?)

He was on Larry King Live, and King asked him about his Hum-vee. I think JV is pro-environment, and Larry basically said, "What gives?" He answered by saying that he needed a Hummer to get around Minneapolis in the winter. As someone who's lived up there, and spent most of my life in Iowa (also harsh winters), it's total bullshit to say you need a vehicle like that to get around in the snow. We've driven 2-wheel drive cars (old cars at that) our entire lives and have gotten around just fine.

Someone who lives deep in a rural area may need a 4x4. Your average city dweller does not. You may feel safer driving it in rough conditions. You may be safer driving it in rough conditions. But you don't need it. The # of times where the weather is really nasty are very few (maybe 5 times a year?). Driving in those conditions just means you let the road crews do their work and drive more carefully (mainly slower). And people just need to stay home (when possible) when it's nasty. A lot of people do completely unnecessary driving when it's nasty outside. I think people get stir crazy when they have to stay home, so they go out regardless of the conditions.

Anyway, one dumbass viewpoint doesn't negate everything he says, but it really pissed me off.

[Summer Hathaway]

26. No, actually I haven't.

Is there some reason I should have?

[Half-Century Man]

27. His show was on "real TV"

which, of course, a bullshit name for that network. However Jesse makes due with whatever he can.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

32. Commenting to watch later.

[Enthusiast]

36. An awfully lot of people have reconsidered

the government's explanation for 911.

I would bet that a huge majority now believe that something was not on the up and up.

Rather than shove the discussion into a dark hole and marginalize anyone that disagrees with the official explanation, we need to have a national discussion.

See, 911 as a topic is strictly verboten. Why is it verboten? What are the PTB afraid of? Would we demand justice if we knew the truth?

Who benefited from 911? How have they benefited? Were these rewards motive enough to inspire 911?

Think about it.

[snappyturtle]

64. I took the government's explanation for a while....then little by little

as I read and digested information that came out it was clear the
the gov't's explanation was more unbelievable than what I was
learning.

I agree that 9/11 needs to be explored....following the money is
probably a great way to go. However, I can understand the
reluctance of some to do this. It's so difficult to imagine any
group of human beings we trust could do such a dastardly act.
We need to do this though because most of what is happening
to us today with loss of civil liberties was born on 9/11. imho

[Indi Guy]

65. Precisely

How many times have we heard the apologists for our loss of liberties begin a sentence with, "Well, in a post 9/11 world..."?

[snappyturtle]

66. I always want to pull my hair out when I hear that!

Isn't it convenient? Fear. Fear. Fear. What in the hell are we so
afraid of? Right now the gov't causes me a lot more concern than
the 'terrorists'. imho

[heaven05]

37. truth hurts piers

some people can make fun of his hair or try to marginalize him because he doesn't spout the 'party line'. That just shows the petty small mindedness of some sheeple. But those very same sheeple whine about not getting more truth. And for you so-called purist, yes the truth is relative I would agree. Yet there is something about the truth that makes it obvious to people who desire the truth. I always have liked Jessie's candidness. Piers is a tool. I hate these money grubbing, no principled 'talking heads'. They are not jounalists in the true sense of the term. Who, what, when, where and why.

[LiberalLovinLug]

38. The audience knows truth when they hear it

Even I was a little shocked to hear the applause. Which goes to prove that if only Americans were allowed to hear the truth or at least alternate opinions other than the bought and paid for government responses, they would relish it.

I don't agree with Ventura on every issue, but I do on the ones he's speaking about here. I love how he is able to cut through the bullshit and fog and state the facts...like the BBC reporting building seven going down a half an hour before it did. And watching Piers vehemently deny it was embarrassing and telling of the blind news media as a whole.

In an alternate universe, maybe one that Phillip K Dick invented, he'd be an amazing President.

[KansDem]

43. Spot on about 9/11...

First, Bush said he saw the attack on TV, then he said he was notified about it. Which is it?

I wish Morgan would ask Bush to clarify himself instead of accusing Ventura of "conspiracy theories."

The official account of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory...

[snappyturtle]

45. I agree wholeheartedly with the last statement in your post.

Doesn't is make sense that 9/11 needs to be re-inverstigated? So
much of our lives today is dictated by the event. All this security
hoopla, and that's all it is, is an excuse for the ptb to do their
aggressive best to get what they want....imho

[MrMickeysMom]

46. I wanted a reinvestigation... still do...

That's why I signed a petition to do so.

The MSM's response to this was that Architect and Engineers (who created this petition) are a bunch of CTs. Not only have I been chastised publicly for asking this question, DU's usual suspects from the past actually harassed me for taking that position. one even got tombstoned after he pushed and pushed way past the time he stalked me over my point of view on DU.

So, the question (OP's very good one), as to why we don't see JV on television anymore has the same answer as to why subjects on DU relevant to 9/11 get shit-canned into "creative speculation" where people can continually receive harassment when conversation re-start said subject. The image of this subject works no better than when it was relegated to "the dungeon".

It doesn't get any respect because it hurts Democrats when they want to talk about it. Well... that's what I think anyway, and that and a dollar will by a cup of coffee.

[Politicalboi]

51. Bush said he saw it live in one of the classrooms

How does a poor black school have cable, and who set up the camera's for Bush to see the first plane? A simple question in a pile of debris, if only we could ask the dip shit how that was done. Bush said as he exited his limo at the school that he knew what happened in NY and would give a presser when he was through telling this school about a reading program that really WORKS! Almost his exact words.

Bush got a pass for EVERYTHING! Even here, some who think this asshole and Cheney wouldn't attack us, but choose to attack other DUer's over simple questions that should be answered. Like why do 19 "terrorist" who plotted 9/11 be worried about box cutters? Can't these "terrorist" learn martial arts and start breaking necks. Years in the making we were told. Why didn't they fly out of NY? Box cutters IS their answer. Better to risk everything and fly over military bases I guess. Oh but their locator was off. LOL! They found that golfer and his crew not long before 9/11. No locator on his plane. But 4 passenger planes, impossible. No heads rolled either. And magical cell phones. And we're called the "nuts".

[wildbilln864]

47. Jesse rocks!

[wildbilln864]

48. I wish

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he'd also brought up the PNAC and their published desire for a "new Pearl Harbor event". And who their members are/were!

[rug]

50. This reminds me of a man on his fifth beer talking to a man on his second gimlet.

[MADem]

53. He's a loony tune. And if you can't bother to provide a hint or summary of his comments,

I cannot be bothered to watch.

File under "Who cares what that nitwit thinks?"

[wildbilln864]

55. he is spot on!

too bad you're afraid to watch it.

[MADem]

56. He's a spot on loony tune. nt

[wildbilln864]

57. you sound like Piers!

You should watch it. How can you say he's loony when you don't listen to what he has to say?

[MADem]

58. Because every time he opens his mouth, crap falls out--why are you bringing this libertarian tripe

up in here, anyway? It's stupid. The guy has major issues, he's to be pitied, not touted.

[wildbilln864]

59. well, we all have opinions.

[Indi Guy]

60. How does your stance differ from that of all the closed-minded conservatives who...

...refuse to even look at information because they are dismissive of the source (the source having been labeled as "Loony Tunes" by the MSM propagandists)?

[lunasun]

54. oh oh asking questions and making sense

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

67. K&R. Thanks for posting.

[pauliedangerously]

68. He's always fun to watch...

He kind of killed his credibility when he yammered on about the BBC reporting Building 7 falling twenty minutes before it happened on 9/11. I certainly have LIHOP suspicions, but it's absurd, I think, to believe that the media was involved in the conspiracy.