Pap and Seder: The Demonization of Edward Snowden

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Ring of Fire hosts Mike Papantonio and Sam Seder discuss how Edward Snowden is being demonized by some mainstream media outlets, even though his actions are initiating important discussion for the reform of spying surveillance.

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1. Or...

Snowden defenders are looking for all kinds of excuses for not paying attention all the previous years.

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2. Or - We Were Paying Attention But Had Not The Evidence To Prove Desecration Of The 4th Amendment

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3. 'Evidence' that the NSA has the capability to do such things isn't evidence

Which is most likely why the MSM is focusing on the crimes Snowden committed, rather than the circumstantial evidence he handed off. But again, the 'evidence' has been out there for a while now. Because Snowden fled the country with classified materials doesn't make it any more true.

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4. Will Not Debate This Distinction With You - Snowden Is A Whistle Blower In My Opinion - I Thank Him

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5. 'Opinion' is the key word

Opinions are not facts.

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6. You Opinions Read Like Same To Me Since You Cannot Prove What The US Media Is Or Is Not Doing

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7. I said 'most likely'

I didn't say 'that's why they are' as a statement of fact.

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8. Snowden Is A Whistle Blower - I Thank Him

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9. I agree with you. It's obvious he's a whistle blower.

The pro-spying people are really the bottom of the barrel. Truly harmful to the country.

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10. Agreed - Spying On Citizens Will Never End Well - Too Much Power - Too Easily Abused

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12. Your opinion

I'm certainly not the only one who disagrees with that opinion.

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13. Your Opinion - And I Am Certainly Not The Only One That Disagrees With You

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11. Ya think.. snowden is a libertarian asshole, hacker, leaker, and now hiding

behind putin's pants. Those are the facts.

But, he does have his fans.. I'll give him that.

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14. Maybe He Is Hiding from The Unjust Actions Of The Obama Administration And 4th Amendment Desecrater's

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15. Pap brings up the key point.

If we had a functioning news media willing to investigate and expose institutional abuses whistleblowers would be less vital.

Instead they focus on Ed Snowden's perceived character flaws or suggest Glen Greenwald should be charged for doing the constitutionally prescribed job they are failing at so spectacularly.