Pic Of The Moment: More Proof That Conservatives Who Hate Obamacare Don't Even Know What It Is

[EarlG]

OOPS: Obamacare Opponent Is Very Impressed With The Law He Hates So Much

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[C_U_L8R]

1. Let's get Mikey, he hates everything

[sheshe2]

2. That's prefect!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

23. Or the old Palmolive dish washing soap commercial

"You're soaking in it!"

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28. Who walks up to a kitchen counter and let's their hand rest in a green liquid? eom

[KansDem]

46. Madge, the Manicurist

[JBoy]

38. That's exactly what came to mind for me! n/t

[NewJeffCT]

3. That's part of the problem with Obamacare

It does a lot of good things (not enough, mind you), but the good parts haven't been sold nearly as much as they should have been.

[Cryptoad]

11. Before it came to a reality

it is too complex an issue to "be sold" to most people! When people can go to exchanges and see what the get for a certain price,,,,, they like !

[TBF]

15. The reason it "can't be sold" is that it's not enough.

And before I get slaughtered for wanting rainbow ponies and such ... think about how easy it would be to say and explain "age restriction eliminated from Medicare - everyone's in". Premiums on a sliding scale based on income. Basic insurance - if you want additional coverage get it on the secondary market.

That is what should have happened. Granted ACA has some nice features - no doubt about that - but it could be better. I'm choosing to look at it as a step in the right direction but much more work to do.

[kenfrequed]

17. Agreed.

It has both policy and perception problems.

From a perception problem it was never bold or clear enough for people to wrap their brains around. Had there been a top ten list of advantages or something it might have been enticing and important in peoples minds. Also being a pile of snips, minor fixes, and nudges results in it being easier to attack. Had the republicans half a brain they would just snip away at the reforms legislatively rather than just making it on big target.

In some regards they are doing the administration a favor by continually referring to it as a solid target.


From a policy perception it is too meek in terms of what it reforms. There is very little in the way of cost control in the system and you only arrive at cost controls backwards by requiring insurance companies spend a certain percentage of their money on healthcare. There are too many loopholes and really the whole thing seems like a way to assure insurance company profits by pushing people into purchasing insurance.

That said, it is better than nothing.

[Cryptoad]

27. I would rather have Medicare for all.

but the reality of it is we didn't have enough power to get that passed..... ACA is a step in the right direction. I believe it and Medicare will morph into a single payer plan in time. But the question was about explaining ACA not whether it was the way to go!

[TBF]

33. I will say though that a few of the folks in here

have stated that a certain segment doesn't like it just because Obama suggested it.

Sadly I think that is also true. They seem to have no problem understanding all the various methods of guns they want to own, ammunition they want to use etc ... you can see the detail for yourself in our "gungeon" here.

[Cryptoad]

35. Yep , it would be a real shame

if we had some kinda reasonable gun control so that the Crazies and thugs could not legally buy all the guns and ammo they want........ yep a real shame!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

50. Somehow we survived revolution, the Civil War, women's suffrage,

two world wars, the Depression, Vietnam, the civil rights movements, etc., but Americans can't be expected to understand... healthcare coverage?

It should have been sold to "other people" -- "some people" would have to catch up. Teabaggers were allowed to shape the message, and that was a HUGE fucking mistake.

[Cryptoad]

54. To the contare,,,,,

the "teabaggers" reshaping or shall we say the distortion of ACA, is proving to be of great benefit as ACA is becoming reality and it proves to the American People how much the Right lied about ACA.

btw ,,, there has always been a enough info for all who were capable of understanding ACA to do so!

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. One wonders why the good parts were not sold nearly as much as they should have been.

Especially since that was too be the biggest part of his legacy. Again.......

[Thinkingabout]

4. As soon as they see the benefits it will be the little old lady saying "Don't mess with my

Obamacare".

[SeattleVet]

21. This is exactly what they fear the most, which is why they are...

determined to strangle it before people start using it and liking what thy get. Once everything gets started they would be hanged by their toenails if they tried to take it away.

[Thinkingabout]

25. Yep, but in the case of Crazy Cruz i think he does not know ACA has passed, signed into law,

Challenged in SC and some portions have gone into effect, you know after all, he did not know he had dual citizenship. Bet Castro is glad his father left Cuba so he could not be blamed for Crazy Cruz.

[liberal N proud]

5. They hate Obamacare because they hate Obama

Why do they hate Obama? For hate's sake!

[old guy]

19. This, I believe, is the key.

I read down thru the posts and tho I agree that some of these ideas have merit, as a practical solution they would provide little help. All the PSAs that can be made are of no value if people don't believe them because of their hate for the President. You could have hour long programs in prime time to explain the whole system but people who hate the president wouldn't watch anyway because to them it would just be lies and propaganda. I have tried to deal with this type of person on this issue and have made zero progress as they are not interested in being informed, they are only interested in hating the President. One of these people even told me flat out that as long as that n..... is in the White House the country will go down hill. I live in NW Wi. but this area is loaded with this attitude.

[get the red out]

39. Here in Kentucky

the PSAs don't mention the connection to Obamacare. I am sure that is on purpose, we do have a Democratic Governor even though a substantial part of the population is as out of touch with reality as in any red state.

[TBF]

32. Unfortunately for many that's the case -

There is certainly a segment that is going to hate it just because he's proposing it (and a certain segment of the press which will magnify that message).

[Swede Atlanta]

6. Obama and his administration are responsible....

for this confusion....

Since it's passage I have seen virtually ZIP, ZERO from him or his folks about the ACA.

If anyone is to blame for this it is Obama and his staff. They needed to immediately engage in promoting this and explaining its benefits.

Now as to this story I'm not sure even that would have made a difference. I think these people are intentionally uninformed or simply choose to be hoodwinked by their pastor or the GOP talking heads (i.e. Rush, Glenn Beck, etc.)

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. There should have been more PSAs. It's like they figured the web would be enough.

[LittleGirl]

9. Exactly! Where's the PSAs?

I agree completely. If obamacare is so good for the country, (which I believe is a start) why aren't the Democrats and the Administration shouting it from the highest hilltop?

hmmm, why not?

Do they think that people will magically change their minds?
Do they know it's a sell out to the insurance companies rather than go with Single Payer (which is the BEST WAY TO DELIVER HEALTHCARE and has been proven over and over all over the world)?

Why isn't there an advertizing campaign about the law?

[Myrina]

14. Thank you.

Well said.

[NYC Liberal]

16. They have been talking about it. Constantly.

Blame the media for the confusion and outright lies when they refuse to cover the issue honestly.

[liberal N proud]

18. Exactly

But then that must be Obama's fault too.

[GeorgeGist]

26. The slow rollout hasn't helped either.

[Cha]

34. Bullshit.. you just haven't seen it. You've joined the pack

of spreading more misinformation about Obamacare. Congratulations.

[MC5]

7. AHCA

Really good article. I would love to spread the word about the AHCA, but don't know of any good links that provide easy to understand facts about it. If anyone knows of anything that would help, plz share.

What this article does show, is that people critical of the president would rather not have healthcare under the AHCA. It is a shame. Would love to share acts

[Blanks]

30. Is this what you're looking for?

http://m.whitehouse.gov/healthreform

[SeattleVet]

45. Here's one that came up today:

There are some reference links given in the video that take you to a subsidy calculator, and one that goes to a listing of the states that are implementing the extensions to Medicare or throwing people under the bus.

[TRoN33]

10. LMFAO....

Why don't ACA's proponents should change Obamacare into something else for very deep red states like RomneyCare or Obama-is-BadNect?

[Cryptoad]

12. Funny in that the Feds having to setup

the exchanges in the Red Moocher States,,,, their Obama Care will be way closer to a single pay plan than the rest of the Nation!

[DainBramaged]

13. Teahadists

[busterbrown]

47. Look at that stupid old lady with that dumb fucking Zero Taxes sign..

Her fucking whole live probably depends on taxes for her S.S. and Medicare

[DissidentVoice]

20. And the same people who decry "socialised medicine"...

...sure don't want anything to happen to Medicare.

[redstatebluegirl]

22. The Obama Administration let the Republicans Label their program Obamacare

instead of putting it out there as the Affordable Care Act. By saying Obamacare, it lets all the racists and others who just hate Obama no matter what, hate the program because it is "Obama's program".

It isn't enough, but it is a good start!

NEVER let the opposition frame your message!

[MADem]

24. Maybe his new doctor will give him something to cure that "stupid" problem he's enduring! nt

[libodem]

29. .

[bigdarryl]

31. Back woods fucks

[Luschnig]

36. If they'd stop sleeping with their siblings

there'd be fewer dumb hillbillies in Kentucky.

[SoapBox]

37. He's another stupid fuck PukeBagger.

...idiot.

[BlueDemKev]

41. I thought Kentucky wasn't setting up a state-run exchange?

And that it had deferred to the federal government on that. So I'm confused.

[A Little Weird]

48. Actually I think it was one of the first states to start working on an exchange.

From what I remember, it was set into motion as soon as the ACA passed the Supreme Court.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

52. Where each state stands on ACA and Medicaid expansion...

Where each state stands on ACA's Medicaid expansion
http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/11/09/MedicaidMap#lightbox/1/



Beyond the pledges: Where the states stand on Medicaid
http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/Resources/Primers/MedicaidMap

[W T F]

42. He must have been the same man who held up a sign that said.......

"Keep your government hands off of my Medicare" (the spelling corrections were mine)

[Iwillnevergiveup]

43. Republicans have known for decades

affordable health care would be a winner for Democrats, just like Medicare and S.S. Single payer or Medicare for all is clearly the way for a civilized nation to go, but once people start experiencing the ACA benefits for themselves.....well, we all know what people say about word of mouth.

[DocMac]

44. I can't deal with dumb people!

[The Wizard]

49. Just responding

to the hatred and propaganda they get all day and night from Pox News and hate radio.
Pox and Rash Limbaugh are real threats to America's health and well being, and as such should be deemed treasonous and dangerous and toxic waste sites.

[Little Star]

51. Up is Down. Right is Left. That's how they think. k&r

[KansDem]

53. You can always tell a TeaBagger...

You just can't tell him much!

[Snake Plissken]

55. If Obamacare was renamed to Baggercare

If would be hugely popular among the Shit-For-Brains-ers