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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:44 AM Dec 2013

Judge: NSA Spying Likely Unconstitutional



Dec 16, 2013

"A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency program which collects information on nearly all telephone calls made to, from or within the United States is likely unconstitutional. U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon found that the program appears to violate the Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. He also said the Justice Department had failed to demonstrate that collecting the information had helped to head off terrorist attacks...".* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.
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Judge: NSA Spying Likely Unconstitutional (Original Post) Coyotl Dec 2013 OP
Well - Of Course! cantbeserious Dec 2013 #1
What if the government doesn't appeal? another_liberal Dec 2013 #2
Good Question hueymahl Dec 2013 #3
That sounds reasonable. another_liberal Dec 2013 #5
"likely" is an understatement given what Leon said elias7 Dec 2013 #4
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
2. What if the government doesn't appeal?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:39 AM
Dec 2013

Will the Judge's ruling simply stay in limbo if the government doesn't appeal it? If that is the case, why would they bother?

hueymahl

(2,498 posts)
3. Good Question
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:16 AM
Dec 2013

The answer is if the government has a fixed period of time to file notice of a appeal under the Federal Rules of Civli Proceedure (30 days, I believe). If they fail to file the appeal, the order becomes final.

elias7

(4,009 posts)
4. "likely" is an understatement given what Leon said
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:25 AM
Dec 2013

“I cannot imagine a more ‘indiscriminate’ and ‘arbitrary invasion’ than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every single citizen for purposes of querying it and analyzing it without judicial approval,”

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