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Most Polite Robbery Ever Caught on Security Cam (Original Post) Jamaal510 Dec 2013 OP
lol Was this in Canada?? JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #1
Notice, he didn't put the till on the counter and the man didn't empty the last slot with the lg glowing Dec 2013 #2
As polite as a guy with a pistol in his hand could be. At least he had his finger off the trigger .. marble falls Dec 2013 #3
It goes beyond right or wrong. davidthegnome Dec 2013 #4
I feel your pain. This guy didn't rob the Man, he robbed his brother. Any reason offered is .... marble falls Dec 2013 #5
While I agree with you davidthegnome Dec 2013 #6
I hope it doesn't happen, Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #7
Great post. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #8
I understand and can sympathize suzanner Dec 2013 #11
Here's what I don't get BobbyBoring Dec 2013 #9
Hmm... davidthegnome Dec 2013 #10
 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
2. Notice, he didn't put the till on the counter and the man didn't empty the last slot with the lg
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:39 AM
Dec 2013

bills. He probably did only get about $40.00 from a gas station. They don't normally keep a lot in the register.. they drop into a safe next to the counter.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
3. As polite as a guy with a pistol in his hand could be. At least he had his finger off the trigger ..
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:02 PM
Dec 2013

more robbers should learn this simple gun safety tip. It was an armed robbery with a firearm. Nothing about it was polite.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
4. It goes beyond right or wrong.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:55 PM
Dec 2013

When I was nineteen, I was living in a small house with my fiancé at the time, and with two children. We were very poor. It was the first time in my life though, that I truly knew hunger, when we ran out of money and the food stamps were delayed for some reason. I can't really describe the feelings that come with that - the shame that I felt, as a young man who couldn't provide for his family. I was raised to believe that this is a man's task, his role - to provide. To fail in that, not being able to find a job.. well, I felt completely worthless.

We didn't quite starve, but we easily could have, if I had not been willing to break several laws and risk prison and worse. I shoplifted several times - milk, bread, simple things. It reminded of when I had been a young boy, and had put a pack of gum in my pocket at the grocery store, without paying for it. When my parents discovered this, they told me it was wrong - and went into great detail about why and how I should never steal. Tearfully, I returned to the store, handed the gum to the man at the counter, blurted out a sobbing apology, and ran back to the car.

Yeah. It was wrong. I look back on that time, on what I did, and I feel deep shame and regret. Yet when it comes down to it, there is nothing I would not do to feed the people I love. A whole lot of people will do the same.

This is what the failure of our social safety net ultimately means. When given a choice between stealing or starving, almost everyone will steal. Hunger will tame a lion - and the shame that good people will feel when stealing... will not stop them from doing what they must to survive.

I haven't stolen anything in a long time - I haven't had to. I live with my parents now and they're fairly well off - but I will never forget what it was like to be truly, desperately poor.

This, above all things, is what is going to force a coming revolution. The deeper the cuts to our safety net, the more they attack food stamps, heating assistance, rental assistance... the more people are going to steal, or even commit armed robbery. Let's not fool ourselves either, very few of these robberies are going to be like what we see in the video.

This is what it means, ultimately, to me, to be a liberal. It is the belief that a society that CAN provide, has a moral obligation to do so. More than that, it is simply good sense. We can prevent a great deal of crime and live in a much better world simply by sharing what we have.

The rich will not do this voluntarily, which is why it must be forced through legislative authority. With all the conservative Christian talk of willing generosity and charity, they are, overall, some of the least charitable people on earth. If we don't have a social safety net - if we can't provide for the poorest among us, then our society, our Nation, our democracy... deserves to fail.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
5. I feel your pain. This guy didn't rob the Man, he robbed his brother. Any reason offered is ....
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:19 PM
Dec 2013

rationalization.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
6. While I agree with you
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:32 PM
Dec 2013

if I were today, poor, with hungry children, rent to pay... and no money, I might very well do the same thing. In my mind I would attempt to rationalize it, to justify it, telling myself I had no choice, that perhaps one day I would pay it back. When it comes to survival though, notions of morality and justification go right out the window. He might have, I suppose, sold his gun to a pawnshop for a few bucks and bought his family a meal at Mcdonalds - but with whatever small amount he got, he can probably feed them for a week or more shopping at a dollar store.

I'd rob my brother too, if it meant the difference between starvation and survival. I'd hate myself for it - but I'd do it.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
7. I hope it doesn't happen,
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:06 PM
Dec 2013

but you might be on to something. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

suzanner

(590 posts)
11. I understand and can sympathize
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:48 PM
Dec 2013

My dad also ran into a crisis period when I was young. We all barely made it through. Consequently, I am really worried about us all, as we may not be able to retire and support ourselves even with a 401 and SS. Yet, we can't all work till we drop. We're all in this together.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
9. Here's what I don't get
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013

yes, the guys desperate. Talks about his kids. Then, pulls off an armed robbery in front of cameras with not so much as a hoodie. I'm sure the guy is busted and going down for a while. Does that help the kids?

Hell no. If you're going to do something like that maximize the profit and minimize the risk.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
10. Hmm...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:00 AM
Dec 2013

It is this that makes me wonder if it may have been a cry for help. This kind of action will draw the attention of the authorities - he might go to jail, but his family will likely receive attention... as to whether anything will be done for them... who knows. Most people know enough to know to wear a mask when you're going to commit armed robbery - or to ask for the video footage, or destroy it.

Or perhaps he was simply so desperate that even common sense did not apply. Without knowing more about his circumstances, we can't really know.

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